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GonnaGetcha720
02-21-2005, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by imonmywayup
5AM
D!>>#28 with 1143 spins, +95 plays, with 8.695 million listeners. 104/116 stations?.



Nice gain in spins and aud. imp. I think this is the songs peak this far:

8.695 aud. imp.
1143 spins


Also, there are 6 songs falling out above Shania's "Don't!"

01-RASCAL FLATTS: Bless The Broken Road: -203 spins
02-KEITH URBAN You're My Better Half: -40 spins
04-BRAD PAISLEY Mud On The Tires: -613 spins
06-ALAN JACKSON Monday Morning Church: -178 spins
07-LEANN RIMES Nothin' 'Bout Love Make...: -206 spins
26-MIRANDA LAMBERT Me And Charlie Talking: -3 spins

ojibiwanqueenst
02-21-2005, 02:57 PM
I am disappointed in KZLA. I don't think there is anything we can do to get them to play D! until the song goes Top 20 on BB. It is unfair for them to compare a female record to a male record. I would post my entire thoughts, but that would take days, lol...

sas
02-21-2005, 03:01 PM
So far I guess I'm the lucky one with the station 949 starcountry playing Don't on a regular basis... Is there anyway to find out what audience the station reaches in Numbers? I noticed on the R&R charts that WSLC 949 increased the plays from 24 LW to 35 TW... Congrats to Brett Sharp the PD.. Wish his good taste would rub off on WTQR's Bill Dotson...

ojibiwanqueenst
02-21-2005, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by sas
So far I guess I'm the lucky one with the station 949 starcountry playing Don't on a regular basis... Is there anyway to find out what audience the station reaches in Numbers? I noticed on the R&R charts that WSLC 949 increased the plays from 24 LW to 35 TW... Congrats to Brett Sharp the PD.. Wish his good taste would rub off on WTQR's Bill Dotson...

It reaches just over 100,000 listeners per week. :)

ojibiwanqueenst
02-21-2005, 04:26 PM
Great Update!!

11AM
D!>>#27 with 1151 spins, +103 plays, with 8.841 million listeners. 112/116 stations playing.

Maybe the new R&R will be enough to get KZLA playing :p

corran
02-21-2005, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
Great Update!!

11AM
D!>>#27 with 1151 spins, +103 plays, with 8.841 million listeners. 112/116 stations playing.

Maybe the new R&R will be enough to get KZLA playing :p

And hopefully WMZQ as they are refusing to play it also...

Benjamin:)

ojibiwanqueenst
02-22-2005, 07:51 AM
Stupid Mediabase!!! They changed the update times, now I don't know if I am going to be home for the updates. I think I will have left for school by then..:mad:

imonmywayup
02-22-2005, 08:01 AM
yea I think it is another hour... blah

imonmywayup
02-22-2005, 09:03 AM
5AM
D!>>#27 with 1154 spins, +102 plays, with 8.998 million listeners. 112/116 stations?.

FV
02-22-2005, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by imonmywayup
5AM
D!>>#27 with 1154 spins, +102 plays, with 8.998 million listeners. 112/116 stations?.
Slowly but steady...:D I am working on the requests..let's keep at it! :BL Hopefully the movie will come out eventually..and help the single..:rolleyes:

jen
02-22-2005, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by FV
Slowly but steady...:D I am working on the requests..let's keep at it! :BL Hopefully the movie will come out eventually..and help the single..:rolleyes:

Well I know it is not coming out in March because I was watching a show that was saying that Jlo's new movie will be out around that time....it is some kind of romantic movie.

So, we will just have to continue at it until then:)

Jud
02-22-2005, 10:51 PM
The charts are "crzay". They were so static for a very long time, now 6 songs are spinning out of the to 10 at once.
Of course till Rasall Flatts are staying on the top position, it makes their stay in the chart longer, despite the negative plays.

ojibiwanqueenst
02-23-2005, 07:38 AM
3AM
D!>>#28 with 1122 spins, +52 plays, with 8.870 million listeners.

shrugs It took a nice hit. Don't know what happened. Stations probably dropped the song....

ojibiwanqueenst
02-23-2005, 07:43 AM
We need to be requesting at large markets that are playing the song..especially WUSN Chicago, they are down 2 plays and 100,000 listeners this week..

Jud
02-23-2005, 09:33 AM
I think this time the drop is not coming from big stations, but smaller ones.
And Wilson's song is comings, and all Mercury/Universal Artist's gained, just Reba's and Shania's song drpped spins.

reba's song too struggled all the way, but got into the top 10/

Keep requesting!

ojibiwanqueenst
02-23-2005, 04:30 PM
Don't! moves #31-#29 this week on BB. Full numbers tomorrow. :)

ojibiwanqueenst
02-24-2005, 07:47 AM
3AM
D!>>#25 with 1182 spins, +107 plays, with 9.246 million listeners.

Great jump! That atleast momentarily gets us away from Dierks Bentley and Gretchen Wilson..

sas
02-24-2005, 07:52 AM
What great news to wake up to this morning... Time to increase the pressure again...:)

jen
02-24-2005, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
3AM
D!>>#25 with 1182 spins, +107 plays, with 9.246 million listeners.

Great jump! That atleast momentarily gets us away from Dierks Bentley and Gretchen Wilson..

Yep very good news but we need to watch out for Gretchen and Dierks......more than likely they will pass soon.

Still a great gain in plays!


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ojibiwanqueenst
02-25-2005, 07:47 AM
3AM
D!>>#27 with 1160 spins, +49 plays, with 9.391 million listeners.

Best news, it gained audience while losing 24 spins. #28-#25 are fighting back and forth. They are all within 50 spins of each other and 500,000 listeners. We need to get Shania past them to #25 before Gretchen passes. This weekend, I think there is going to be 2-4 recurrents too, so the higher we can get her up to Sunday, the best.

GonnaGetcha720
02-25-2005, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
3AM
D!>>#27 with 1160 spins, +49 plays, with 9.391 million listeners.

Best news, it gained audience while losing 24 spins. #28-#25 are fighting back and forth. They are all within 50 spins of each other and 500,000 listeners. We need to get Shania past them to #25 before Gretchen passes. This weekend, I think there is going to be 2-4 recurrents too, so the higher we can get her up to Sunday, the best.

Where did the loss in spins come from. I am really suprised. It seems that Shania seems that everytime Shania makes an improvement, the next day she loses spins or aud. imp. or both. Why is this? Why can't "Don't!" just steadily climb even if it only gained 15-30 spins a day....that would be better than all of this back and forth stuff.

Jud
02-26-2005, 08:07 AM
26/02/05 , 3.18am

D! >> #25 with 1182 spins (exactly like two days ago), +111 plays and 9.490 audience impressions. Its out of the top 20 gainers even with +111 play.

Oke, who knows what will be tomorrow, now the song has the same position and plays as two days ago with a little more audience impressions, still, that is the weakest point so far >> she played generally, but less on big stations.

ojibiwanqueenst
02-26-2005, 10:11 AM
Here we go again :rolleyes:

GonnaGetcha720
02-26-2005, 10:17 AM
Shania fans, there is some really, really good news though.

Seven songs in front of Shania are falling out. This means that, If Shania can gain enough to hold off Gretchen and Dierks, than by next week she could be top 20...if they all continue to fall fast enough. A couple of them are already in -500 spins and -300. Things are looking a lot better.

It looks like the charts aren't as slow as they were a couple of days ago.

Jud
02-26-2005, 10:29 AM
I don't think it will be that quick. Some songs will have a long way out to going recurrent.
I think this week maybe will go one song or two, not even sure about that.
The oldest song right now in the top 20 is Sugarland (33wks) at #6.

ojibiwanqueenst
02-26-2005, 11:05 AM
Keith Urban (-304) will go recurrent. This is his 3rd week without a bullet.

LeAnn Rimes (-412) might go recurrent. I can't remember if she finished with a bullet or not.

Alan Jackson (-200) won't go recurrent, this week. But he could still plummet out of the Top 10.

Reba McEntire (-646) will probably go recurrent, because of the rate at which she is falling.

Jud
02-26-2005, 11:20 AM
Urban probably than, and maybe Reba.

imonmywayup
02-26-2005, 03:33 PM
11AM
D!>>#25 with 1206 spins, +135 plays, with 9.513 million listeners. 112/116 stations.

Pretty good update!

GonnaGetcha720
02-26-2005, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by imonmywayup
11AM
D!>>#25 with 1206 spins, +135 plays, with 9.513 million listeners. 112/116 stations.

Pretty good update!

Great news...I hope Shania can hold off Gretchen and Dierks...she will if she keeps up this pace!;)

Jud
02-26-2005, 08:17 PM
Wislon hs already 1100 spins, and almost the same audience impressions as Shania's song. She will get infront soon.

imonmywayup
02-27-2005, 07:07 AM
3AM
D!>>#25 with 1228 spins, +145 plays, with 9.636 million listeners. 112/116 stations.

Jud
02-27-2005, 10:27 AM
Nice gain, and two days in a row, wow.

Unfortunatelly, today, tomorrow or day after Wilson's song will go over Don't!.
Will be interesting to see which songs will go recurrent, and if Don't can keep the gain (even if in small ammouts).

ojibiwanqueenst
02-27-2005, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Jud
Nice gain, and two days in a row, wow.

Unfortunatelly, today, tomorrow or day after Wilson's song will go over Don't!.
Will be interesting to see which songs will go recurrent, and if Don't can keep the gain (even if in small ammouts).

Gretchen should pass tonight, I think. BUt it's good that she is passing on a day when songs go recurrent. That way Shania will either stand still or move up a spot or two. Best case would be Wilson passes tomorrow and Shania gets the effect of all the recurrents, but I think she will pass tonight.

GonnaGetcha720
02-27-2005, 11:14 AM
There is some bad news though Shania fans. If you put the charts in order by aud. imp. than:

This is what Billboard could look like:

(LW Billboard Pos.) TW prediction-Artist-Song-Aud. Imp.

(01) 01-RASCAL FLATTS Bless The Broken Road-43.225
(02) 02-KEITH URBAN You're My Better Half-37.569
(03) 03-JOSH GRACIN Nothin' To Lose-37.080
(05) 04-CRAIG MORGAN That's What I Love-36.600
(04) 05-BRAD PAISLEY Mud On The Tires-32.429
(08) 06-SUGARLAND Baby Girl-32.428
(11) 07-KENNY CHESNEY Anything But Mine-28.977
(06) 08-ALAN JACKSON Monday Morning Church- 28.399
(09) 09-BILLY DEAN Let Them Be Little-28.289
(12) 10-BROOKS & DUNN It's Getting Better-28.149
(13) 11-MONTGOMERY GENTRY Gone-25.895
(07) 12-LEANN Nothin' 'Bout Love Makes Since-25.183
(15) 13-LEE ANN WOMACK I May Hate Myself-23.737
(14) 14-JO DEE MESSINA My Give A Damn's Bus-23.657
(17) 15-TOBY KEITH Honkytonk U-22.453
(16) 16-ANDY GRIGGS If Heaven-21.405
(10) 17-REBA MCENTIRE He Gets That From Me- 19.734
(18) 18-JOE NICHOLS What's A Guy Gotta Do-17.737
(19) 19-JAMIE O'NEAL Trying To Find Atlantis-16.301
(---) 20-TIM MCGRAW Drugs Or Jesus-16.155
(20) 21-MARTINA MCBRIDE God's Will-15.306
(---) 22-BLAINE How Do You Get That Lonely-14.013
(---) 23-TRACE ADKINS Songs About Me-13.575
(---) 24-LONESTAR Class Reunion-11.383
(---) 25-PHIL VASSAR I'll Take That-9.979
(---) 26-GRETCHEN WILSON Homewrecker-9.812
(---) 27-DIERKS BENTLEY Lot Of Leavin' Left To Do-9.781
(---) 28-JEFF BATES Long, Slow Kisses-9.644
(29) 29-SHANIA TWAIN Don't!-9.636
(---) 30-MIRANDA LAMBERT Me And Charlie Talking-9.063


----------------------------------------

Songs that go recurrent on Mediabase won't neccessarily go reccurent on Billboard. Once a song has been on the chart for 20+ weeks and is below the No. 20 position it will go reccurrent on Billboard. Therefore...not one song above "Don't!" will go reccurent on Billboard this week, however next week looks pretty good.


This is what I predict R&R will look like:


(01) 01-RASCAL FLATTS Bless The Broken Road-43.225
(03) 02-JOSH GRACIN Nothin' To Lose-37.080
(03) 03-KEITH URBAN You're My Better Half-37.569
(05) 04-CRAIG MORGAN That's What I Love-36.600
(04) 05-BRAD PAISLEY Mud On The Tires-32.429
(08) 06-SUGARLAND Baby Girl-32.428
(06) 07-ALAN JACKSON Monday Morning Church-28.399
(11) 08-KENNY CHESNEY Anything But Mine-28.977
(10) 09-BILLY DEAN Let Them Be Little-28.289
(12) 10-BROOKS & DUNN It's Getting Better-28.149
(14) 11-MONTGOMERY GENTRY Gone-25.895
(13) 12-LEE ANN WOMACK I May Hate Myself-23.737
(15) 13-JO DEE MESSINA My Give A Damn's Bus-23.657
(17) 14-TOBY KEITH Honkytonk U-22.453
(16) 15-ANDY GRIGGS If Heaven-21.405
(18) 16-JOE NICHOLS What's A Guy Gotta Do-17.737
(19) 17-JAMIE O'NEAL Trying To Find Atlantis-16.301
(22) 18-TIM MCGRAW Drugs Or Jesus-16.155
(20) 19-MARTINA MCBRIDE God's Will-15.306
(21) 20-TRACE ADKINS Songs About Me-14.575
(23) 21-BLAINE How Do You Get That Lonely-14.013
(25) 22-LONESTAR Class Reunion-11.383
(34) 23-GRETCHEN WILSON Homewrecker-9.812
(28) 24-SHANIA TWAIN Don't!-9.636
(27) 25-PHIL VASSAR I'll Take That-9.979
(26) 26-MIRANDA LAMBERT Me And Charlie Talking-9.063
(29) 27-DIERKS BENTLEY Lot Of Leavin' Left To Do-9.781
(24) 28-JEFF BATES Long, Slow Kisses-9.644
(31) 29-AMY DALLEY I Would Cry-6.657
(35) 30-BIG & RICH Big Time-5.995

------------------------

I think Gretchen will pass Shania, but I also think that Reba and Leann Rimes will go reccurrent. We'll have to wait and see!

ojibiwanqueenst
02-27-2005, 11:24 AM
That's okay though, because KZLA looks at the R&R chart so it needs to move high on there too. Eventually it will move on BB, you're right.

imonmywayup
02-27-2005, 07:03 PM
11AM
D!>>#25 with 1237 spins, +154 plays, with 9.619 million listeners. 112/116 stations.

We should see Don't! move up at least 2 spots after tonight when a few songs go recurrent. Let's keep Gretchen from passing, come on and request!!!

Jud
02-27-2005, 09:22 PM
Well, in the newest update Wilson's song is before Shania's.

jen
02-27-2005, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by Jud
Well, in the newest update Wilson's song is before Shania's.


Yes it is, but we knew that was coming 1249spins, +166plays, and 9.659 million listeners. Jerks Bentley is the next one we have to worry about.

ojibiwanqueenst
02-27-2005, 10:02 PM
Hopefully we can get another good week. This week ended high, but a strong week of 300-400+ bullets all week would be great. We need to try and pick up about 1.5-2 million listeners too if possible.

GonnaGetcha720
02-27-2005, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by jen
Yes it is, but we knew that was coming 1249spins, +166plays, and 9.659 million listeners. Jerks Bentley is the next one we have to worry about.

He is still 100+ spins beyond though. I think we'll be safe from him tonight. Tommorrow is a different story, but tonight is important. Tonight's final list is the R&R list basically. We really need to focus on Aud. Imp. since that is they way Billboard figures their charts.

PLEASE everybody request at top 25 markets. Oh, and great job Shania fans for getting Shania out of the slump she was in last week...I knew we could do it! We've done it before...and we'll probably have to do it again in the future.

Jud
02-27-2005, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by jen
Jerks Bentley is the next one we have to worry about.

Though this name fits him better than his own, we don't need to go down to his level. No need of name-calling.

jen
02-27-2005, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by GonnaGetcha720
He is still 100+ spins beyond though. I think we'll be safe from him tonight. Tommorrow is a different story, but tonight is important. Tonight's final list is the R&R list basically. We really need to focus on Aud. Imp. since that is they way Billboard figures their charts.

PLEASE everybody request at top 25 markets. Oh, and great job Shania fans for getting Shania out of the slump she was in last week...I knew we could do it! We've done it before...and we'll probably have to do it again in the future.


ANOTHER LARGE STATION has added recently, so if you are from the area please help request to keep the plays going:

(WTQR Winston/Salem/Greensboro,NC)
Request line: 336-822-1041

EMAIL REQUESTS: wtqr@wtqr.com



These stations have also added recently and I have not seen any increase in plays, so if you are from the area or in the same time zone please help out to keep the station playing the song:

(WKHK Colonial Heights, VA)INTERNET STREAMED/EASY REQUEST
REQUESTS: (804) 345-9595
#K95 on Alltel Wireless Phone (Toll-free)


http://k95country.com/music/rateit.html# GO TO RATE A SONG, If not click on Last Songs Played, then type in PARTY FOR TWO or SHANIA TWAIN.

bill.drake@cox.com (9am-2pm) *Country Cafe*
kay.thomas@cox.com (2pm-7pm)


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ojibiwanqueenst
02-28-2005, 07:49 AM
3AM
D>>#27 with 1227 spins, +76 plays, with 9.488 million listeners.

One song went recurrent. Miranda Lambert, who fought back and forth last week, and Dierks Bentley passed.

sas
02-28-2005, 07:56 AM
I HAVE A QUESTION AND THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER!! HOW DID GRETCHEN'S AUD IMPRESSION GO UP----------+2 MILLION ---------FROM 10p last night to now 8A this morn...... how is that possible ?

ojibiwanqueenst
02-28-2005, 07:58 AM
Because it made countdown shows, probably. Don't! isn't high enough to get on them yet, so it isn't picking up that extra audience.

sas
02-28-2005, 07:59 AM
DONT did come in at #31 last night on the ACC top 40 countdown...:) But I see what you mean

Jud
02-28-2005, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
3AM
D>>#27 with 1227 spins, +76 plays, with 9.488 million listeners.

One song went recurrent. Miranda Lambert, who fought back and forth last week, and Dierks Bentley passed.

Lamberts song did not went recurrent, but gained back, and now it's #26, right before Shania's song.

But SAS is rigth the pace Wilson's song is gaining is ridiculous, as well as the jump of Bentley's song.

BTW, yesterday evening, during the last report Don't! was at #25 with 1249 spins and higher audience imptressions. It has to drop some for Bentley's song get over:rolleyes:

Jud
02-28-2005, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
Because it made countdown shows, probably. Don't! isn't high enough to get on them yet, so it isn't picking up that extra audience.

Don't! was #30 last week, and #29 this week on R&R's Country Countdown USA.

ojibiwanqueenst
02-28-2005, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Jud
Don't! was #30 last week, and #29 this week on R&R's Country Countdown USA.

But even that isn't enough to put in on Lon's CMT Country Countdown. Gretchen just got added last week too. Eventually it will move...:)

ojibiwanqueenst
02-28-2005, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Jud
Lamberts song did not went recurrent, but gained back, and now it's #26, right before Shania's song.



:p I forgot to put that she PASSED Shania. LOL. Brad Paisley went recurrent.

cbspock
02-28-2005, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by sas
I HAVE A QUESTION AND THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER!! HOW DID GRETCHEN'S AUD IMPRESSION GO UP----------+2 MILLION ---------FROM 10p last night to now 8A this morn...... how is that possible ?


Ka-Ching!


-Chris

ojibiwanqueenst
03-01-2005, 07:47 AM
3AM
D!>>#27 with 1241 spins, +87 plays, with 9.590 million listeners.

Here comes Reba, down down down she goes. LeAnn too, and finally Alan Jackson..

GonnaGetcha720
03-01-2005, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
3AM
D!>>#27 with 1241 spins, +87 plays, with 9.590 million listeners.

Here comes Reba, down down down she goes. LeAnn too, and finally Alan Jackson..

Maybe we could see Shania at No.24 by Friday?

ojibiwanqueenst
03-01-2005, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by GonnaGetcha720
Maybe we could see Shania at No.24 by Friday?

Atleast #26, lol, because Reba is at #20 and falling hard. I think Keith Urban goes recurrent this week if he remains bulletless, this is LeAnn's week to go too. Alan is on his second week without a bullet, as is Lee Ann Womack.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-02-2005, 07:57 AM
3AM
D!>>#26 with 1291 spins, +167 plays, with 9.877 million listeners. 110/116 stations.

jen
03-02-2005, 09:39 AM
Not sure what stations dropped, because when "Don't" is not high up on plays I cannot see the chart to keep an eye on the stations.

Kinda, BAD NEWS.....I checked and no stations have added recently. Good News, is that all but one of the top 20 stations that are playing "DON'T" have positive numbers.

KEEP REQUESTING, we have to get this song into the TOP 20 so the remaining LARGE STATIONS can add the song.

Jud
03-02-2005, 10:45 AM
A nice gain despite the dropped two stations, which perhaps did not played the song much anyway...

It only needs to maintain a gain for a couple of days in a row, without the setbacks. The top 20 gets really close now.

Request the song at your local statioon and streaming stations.

Jud
03-03-2005, 01:03 AM
Don't! jumped to #25 on Radioandrecords chart, but on Billboard it went up only one place to #28 - thanks to the low audience impressions - which is the result of big stations not playing the song.

Meanwhile Wilson's song jumped to #23, and Bentley's to #25.

SSA316
03-03-2005, 06:29 AM
Maybe we should email Mercury and inform that large markets aren't playing the song...perhaps they will do something about it or give us an answer as to why!

ojibiwanqueenst
03-03-2005, 07:35 AM
3AM
D!>>#27 with 1279 spins, +94 plays, with 9.944 million listeners.

cbspock
03-03-2005, 07:41 AM
:rolleyes:


-Chris

SSA316
03-03-2005, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
3AM
D!>>#27 with 1279 spins, +94 plays, with 9.944 million listeners.

...damn this song is going nowhere! :( :rolleyes:
Stupid Country Radio stations.....please excuse me, I need to go scream into a pillow! :mad:

Jud
03-03-2005, 08:21 AM
I think they pulling on Shania the treatment they did to Faith Hill with Cry:rolleyes:

cbspock
03-03-2005, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Jud
I think they pulling on Shania the treatment they did to Faith Hill with Cry:rolleyes:


One big difference, Don't is a country song.


-Chris

aFriend
03-03-2005, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by cbspock
One big difference, Don't is a country song.


-Chris

I disagree. Don't is more contemporary and when released to Adult Stations, will have the same success as For always and forever.(IMO of course) Quiter is Country with no strings attached..;)

cbspock
03-03-2005, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by aFriend
I disagree. Don't is more contemporary and when released to Adult Stations, will have the same success as For always and forever.(IMO of course) Quiter is Country with no strings attached..;)



Don't is a country song. It has all the right instruments in it. If that lame Tim song, and the Nelly song are being played on country radio then that makes "Don't" a traditional country ballad. :D


-Chris

Steve F
03-03-2005, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by cbspock
Don't is a country song. It has all the right instruments in it. If that lame Tim song, and the Nelly song are being played on country radio then that makes "Don't" a traditional country ballad. :D


-Chris

I agree Chris Don't is a country song, but then it could be considered as AC. Why I say that is if you look at the videos for both GAC and VH1, I believe they are the same, no changes. At least I haven't noted any differences. Correct me if I missed any. This tells me it was intended for both genres as it is. I also agree that if it can get itself established on AC, it should become a radio staple there.

Steve

cbspock
03-03-2005, 11:53 AM
Here on the island, they are playing Tim on AC nonstop. He remixed his dying song. UGH. Don't should do well on AC, FAFA is still being played.


-Chris

Steve F
03-03-2005, 01:21 PM
It's funny, but I haven't heard Tim's duet much around here.

Steve

Alanb
03-03-2005, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Steve F
It's funny, but I haven't heard Tim's duet much around here.

Steve

Consider yourself lucky, Steve!

I've heard it too many times already and sadly I'm sure I'm going to here it some more.

I'm still shaking my head over how this song qualifies as country. :eek: Especially after the nonsense they spout about Shania's brand of country.

cbspock
03-03-2005, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Alanb
Consider yourself lucky, Steve!

I've heard it too many times already and sadly I'm sure I'm going to here it some more.

I'm still shaking my head over how this song qualifies as country. :eek: Especially after the nonsense they spout about Shania's brand of country.


Yep!


-Chris

ojibiwanqueenst
03-04-2005, 07:57 AM
D!>>#27 with 1330 spins, +170 plays, with 10.253 million listeners.

It's like the weather...ugggg..what will tomorrow bring?

ojibiwanqueenst
03-04-2005, 05:00 PM
Don't Chart Run to 3/4/2005

Spins Audience Bullet Position
53 0.415 49 59
79 0.633 74 54
119 0.958 113 49
228 1.489 220 44
254 1.689 234 43
280 1.836 248 43
301 2.039 255 42
325 2.248 272 39
347 2.445 268 38
346 2.458 227 38
279 2.49 68 40
331 2.784 77 38
357 2.906 77 38
411 3.324 110 38
448 3.626 123 36
508 3.792 129 36
543 4.219 197 34
572 4.379 274 34
609 4.613 276 33
616 4.791 229 33
681 5.276 270 32
717 5.547 269 33
749 5.774 271 33
767 5.99 223 33
793 6.232 222 32
792 6.247 180 32
815 6.232 193 33
851 6.642 171 32
929 7.496 212 29
945 7.613 196 30
983 7.671 216 30
985 7.628 192 30
1008 7.735 217 30
1024 7.755 209 30
1020 7.644 169 30
1048 7.669 119 29
1052 7.662 106 29
1070 7.831 87 28
1075 7.824 90 28
1111 7.851 103 28
1071 7.86 32 28
1080 8.031 58 28
1151 8.841 103 27
1155 9.045 103 27
1124 8.877 54 28
1184 9.257 109 25
1160 9.391 49 27
1216 9.609 145 25
1249 9.659 166 26
1227 9.488 76 27
1241 9.59 87 27
1295 9.892 171 26
1280 9.948 96 27
1330 10.253 170 27

Spins Chart
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/shaniagonnagetcha/dont_spins.jpg

Audience Chart
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/shaniagonnagetcha/dont_audience.jpg

jen
03-04-2005, 05:05 PM
Well it is at the highest in spins that it has been so far, hopefully we can keep it going up.


So how many weeks has it been on the chart so far and what was it's official release date?

ojibiwanqueenst
03-04-2005, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by jen
So how many weeks has it been on the chart so far and what was it's official release date?

Information on Monday ;)

cbspock
03-05-2005, 12:40 AM
At least it is trending up.


-Chris

Jud
03-05-2005, 12:57 AM
It will go up faster on Mediabase, as their recurrent rule is quicker than of Billboard, and because Billboard goes by audience impressions of the songs, and Don't!-s aren't the best, as the biggest markets are not playing it enough.

Jud
03-05-2005, 06:27 AM
05.03.05, 3.15am

D! >> #27, with 1324 (drop of 6 spins) +108 plays and 10.259 audience impressions.

the top 25 stations are still a very big problem. they simple holding off the song.

BTW Wilson's song run through Lonestar's too.:rolleyes:

But Don't! give UP!, some songs take 30 weeks to get to the top or top 10. Keep requesting, don't give them any excuse, other than their own bias, to not playing the song.

Steve F
03-05-2005, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Alanb
Consider yourself lucky, Steve!

I've heard it too many times already and sadly I'm sure I'm going to here it some more.

I'm still shaking my head over how this song qualifies as country. :eek: Especially after the nonsense they spout about Shania's brand of country.

I do feel lucky. As a matter of fact, the only time I've actually seen the video was on VH1's Top 20, and that was weeks ago. I haven't watched it for some time now. Today was the first time I turned on CMT's Toip 20 for a month and a half, and just long enough to watch Don't at #20. Then I switched back to GAC to see it again at #6. I am getting a feeling it won't go higher than it has to #4 on GAC, and with the trouble she's had with CMT recently, it may not do too well there either. She is also barely moving up on America's Top 40 Country Countdown which is "The Countdown" for radio. She's been on there for several weeks now and has only made it from #37 to #31. I "don't" see "Don't" going too far there either.

It is very frustrating when you know there is a really well written and performed song that is beautiful and has an intriguing video to display it, and it doesn't move real well. But on the other hand, if you take a bunch of people and have them mud-wrestle or something, you climb right up the charts, but we all know why that is. I don't know Al if you remember the old song from the 50's called Let Me In? It is how Shania must feel sometimes. It has been many years since I heard it, but from memory it goes something like this: "Let me in, wee-oop, wee-oop, oop-wee-oo, wee-oop, wee-oop, wee-ee-oop, wee-ooo. I hear music please let me in, I just want to come in, Let me in, there it is I heard it again, please let me in, I thought you were my friend.....Open up, please open up that door......:D Anyway, that is how Shania must feel about Nashville.:LMAO

Steve

limited
03-05-2005, 04:51 PM
QUOTE: Posted by Steve F
It is very frustrating when you know there is a really well written and performed song that is beautiful and has an intriguing video to display it, and it doesn't move real well. But on the other hand, if you take a bunch of people and have them mud-wrestle or something, you climb right up the charts, but we all know why that is.



Shania is not the only one that has this problem. I have followed this business for 40 years,and I have never seen an artist like Shania that has such a high level of artistry and musical integrity all of the time.She is one in a billion!There are only a few TRUE ARTISTS in country and most of them have problems getting airplay. The only thing that gets played today is the hillbilly and redneck junk. I for one am getting fed up with this redneck garbage, and I have stopped listening to country radio, and the video channels are not much better. I hope that this trend runs it's course and we can get back to a good variety again that we enjoyed a few years ago. I can't believe that the majority of listeners really like this trend. It is time to start calling the stations and more importantly their sponsors,and let them know how we feel!

cbspock
03-05-2005, 05:02 PM
Country definitely needs to change.


-Chris

imonmywayup
03-06-2005, 10:17 AM
3AM
D!>>#27 with 1320 spins, +71 plays, with 10.406 million listeners. 110/116 stations?.

Jud
03-06-2005, 10:19 AM
06/03/05, 3.13AM

D! >> #27 with 1320 spins (drop) +71 plays and 10.401 audience impressions ( a minimal gain).
Of course the drop was caused mainly by top 25 stations dropping spins.

GonnaGetcha720
03-06-2005, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Jud
06/03/05, 3.13AM

D! >> #27 with 1320 spins (drop) +71 plays and 10.401 audience impressions ( a minimal gain).
Of course the drop was caused mainly by top 25 stations dropping spins.

How is Shania gaining in aud. imp. but losing spins...it doesn't make since.

windtalker
03-06-2005, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by GonnaGetcha720
How is Shania gaining in aud. imp. but losing spins...it doesn't make since.

It could be due to when the song is played. There will obviously be less listeners if the song is played at like 3am or something.

cbspock
03-06-2005, 01:04 PM
These charts are so bogus.


-Chris

GonnaGetcha720
03-06-2005, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by cbspock
These charts are so bogus.


-Chris


Shania has been in the same place (30-25 range) on the Mediabase charts for about 2+ weeks now...it's gettring really old!!!!!:mad:

cbspock
03-06-2005, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by GonnaGetcha720
Shania has been in the same place (30-25 range) on the Mediabase charts for about 2+ weeks now...it's gettring really old!!!!!:mad:

Maybe the Larry King interview will jar it loose.


-Chris

GonnaGetcha720
03-06-2005, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by cbspock
Maybe the Larry King interview will jar it loose.


-Chris

I sure hope so....soon the "freshness" factor of the song will go away if it hasn't already and the song will eventually run out of gas. We need Shania to make some appearances and we need about 20-30 biased country DJs fired!:mad:

cbspock
03-06-2005, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by GonnaGetcha720
I sure hope so....soon the "freshness" factor of the song will go away if it hasn't already and the song will eventually run out of gas. We need Shania to make some appearances and we need about 20-30 biased country DJs fired!:mad:


Shania doesn't even need to make an appearance. We just need Don't to go to AC. Forget country radio.



-Chris

corran
03-06-2005, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by cbspock
Shania doesn't even need to make an appearance. We just need Don't to go to AC. Forget country radio.



-Chris


Chris

While I will agree with you for the most part...I will say we still need to push Shania Twain on Country radio and especially on the two Satellite links XM and Sirius as they are starting to have a bigger impact and reach out to larger audiences everyday and the audience for radio I know will continue to shrink because of such bias that exists amongst those DJ's....I also especially dislike groups like Musik Mafia that discriminate against Shania and other country artists...They are using their financial clout to artificially increase the number of spins in their group by pooling their financial resources...I recognize what is going on but I don't have to like it...

Benjamin:mad:

Jud
03-07-2005, 01:12 AM
Last update for this week, 9.00pm

D! >> #25 with 1325 spins, +76 plays and 10.440 audience impressions.

Two songs, of Alan Jackson and of Rimes went recurrent, that's why D! higher on Mediabase. Two more songs will go recurrent soon, of Reba and Urban, and rascall Flatt's song finally spinning out.

Keep pushing the song! Don't! forget, Sara Evan's song needed 32 to get #1, but she's got it, and at first the song struggled a lot, as well as Rimes single too. it's not over yet.

cbspock
03-07-2005, 06:49 AM
Yeah, but Sara's song got the money boost toward the end to push it the rest of the way.


-Chris

imonmywayup
03-07-2005, 08:02 AM
3AM
D!>>#25 with 1361 spins, +134 plays, with 10.747 million listeners. 110/116 stations?.

It's a fresh week and Don't! is closer to the top 20. Let's start the week off right and try to request at least once daily. We can do this!! COME ON AND REQUEST!!!

GonnaGetcha720
03-08-2005, 06:41 AM
3AM
D!>>#23 with 1362 spins, +121 plays, with 10.804 million listeners. UNKNOWN STATIONS

Well, overnight Shania passed Jeff Bates and Reba. That is always good, however, Don't only gained 1 spin and very minimal aud. imp. The chart gets very competitative here because Shania is behind. If this chart were based on Aud. Imp. Shania would be at #27 right now. Keep Requesting. Maybe Keith Urban will go recurrent by Sunday night and let Shania take the No. 22 spot for R&R and Billboard. It doesn't look like Shania will get anymore 'freebie' passes. Shania won't pass another falling artist for a long time. The nearest falling song is Keith Urban up at #7. We need to keep the aud. imp. growing so Shania will stay where she's at until another song falls...she won't be able to pass Lonestar, Gretchen, or Dierks.

cbspock
03-08-2005, 07:20 AM
You see this is where Mercury needs to call some PDs and twist some arms, and grease some wheels, like all the other labels do.


-Chris

Jud
03-08-2005, 07:39 AM
Unfortumatelly the Billboard country chart is working with aufdience impressions, which means, that D! will stay behind.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-08-2005, 07:45 AM
GonnGetcha--

Change the URL to c1m and then hit the Audience blue link. It will arrange the songs by audience. Shania is at #25 on Billboard right now, if the chart closes after this update.

jen
03-08-2005, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by cbspock
You see this is where Mercury needs to call some PDs and twist some arms, and grease some wheels, like all the other labels do.


-Chris Mercury just needs to get those last Large stations like KZLA to finally play the song. I can't imagine what they are waiting for. The song not gaining daily is hurting the song as well as GH sales.

cbspock
03-08-2005, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by jen
Mercury just needs to get those last Large stations like KZLA to finally play the song. I can't imagine what they are waiting for. The song not gaining daily is hurting the song as well as GH sales.


The deck is stacked against Shania it would appear.


-Chris

ojibiwanqueenst
03-09-2005, 07:40 AM
3AM
D!>>#25 with 1316 spins, +21 plays, with 10.645 million listeners.

It took a hit, what can you do. Keep Requesting!

Jud
03-09-2005, 10:09 AM
Of course once again there was a seatback with the top 25 stations.

jen
03-09-2005, 10:16 AM
yep and one of my local stations KSKS is top with how many times it plays "D!" but it can't stay there much longer as right now they are doing a special and it's not regular airplay all day. So, it really doesn't look good IMO

Plus me being sick, doesn't help either as I haven't been requesting as much

cbspock
03-09-2005, 10:28 AM
Wasn't posted somewhere in an article saying the new way the charts are figured would hurt country ballads?


-Chris

Jud
03-09-2005, 10:55 AM
Waugh says country artists already have fewer avenues for radio and chart exposure than their pop counterparts and will be limited even more. He also says ballads, a mainstay of country radio, will have a harder time cracking the chart under the new system.

“They are the last songs to go into morning drive,” he said. “So, you’re kind of being penalized if you are a new artist, or if you have a ballad. And if you’re a new artist with a ballad, you really have a hard time breaking into the system.”

http://www.shania-twain.org/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16598

If you add to this the general bias against Shania and the current traditionalist-redneck trend....

ojibiwanqueenst
03-09-2005, 04:02 PM
Don't rises 2 to #26 on BB this week.

GonnaGetcha720
03-09-2005, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
Don't rises 2 to #26 on BB this week.


that is its biggest jump on that chart in like 4-5 weeks.:)

GonnaGetcha720
03-09-2005, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by Jud
Of course once again there was a seatback with the top 25 stations.

I am blaming Mercury...their plan to tell the top 25 markets not to play the song...that was so stupid in my opinion...they thought that once they gave the 'green light' that the song would shoot up like Toby's "honky Tonk U" did. Everybody knows Country radio doesn't treat Shania like that.:rolleyes:

GonnaGetcha720
03-09-2005, 04:59 PM
OMG!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

The rap artist appearing on Big and Rich's "Horse of a Different Color" has debuted on Mediabase's country chart with 30 plays. This hippocracy is pissing me off....and they say Shania isn't country...if he makes it into the top 40 I will be really upset!!!!:mad:

cbspock
03-09-2005, 08:56 PM
Isn't country just great!!! WHOOOHOO!!! :rolleyes:


What a load of felgercarb.


-Chris

GonnaGetcha720
03-09-2005, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by cbspock
Isn't country just great!!! WHOOOHOO!!! :rolleyes:


What a load of felgercarb.


-Chris


I need to go watch the tape of Shania winning EOTY @ CMA back in 1999...I need to feel better!:p

Wouldn't it be great to have another moment like that where Shania could win 'the big one.' Don't think the CMA will let her this year although they should...but no tour and no solo hit single...don't think that will do it...but wouldn't it be great or even if Don't went to #1...:drool: :drool: :drool:

cbspock
03-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by GonnaGetcha720
I need to go watch the tape of Shania winning EOTY @ CMA back in 1999...I need to feel better!:p

Wouldn't it be great to have another moment like that where Shania could win 'the big one.' Don't think the CMA will let her this year although they should...but no tour and no solo hit single...don't think that will do it...but wouldn't it be great or even if Don't went to #1...:drool: :drool: :drool:


They gave it to her in 1999 because they had to. I don't expect them to hand over another one any time soon. Shania gets her revenge every time she outsells music row. :D

Just think, even when they "cheat" they can't beat her.


-Chris

ojibiwanqueenst
03-10-2005, 07:46 AM
3AM
D!>>#23 with 1357 spins, +77 plays, with 10.679 million listeners.

Can someone say Roller Coaster Ride?:rolleyes:

aFriend
03-10-2005, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
3AM
D!>>#23 with 1357 spins, +77 plays, with 10.679 million listeners.

Can someone say Roller Coaster Ride?:rolleyes:

When and If it reaches the top 20, the spins and impressions will increase. I know for a fact (With few exceptions) that quite a few stations only play songs in heavy rotation that are in the top 20.
Once "Don't" get's there, we wil see bigger increases.

FV
03-10-2005, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
3AM
D!>>#23 with 1357 spins, +77 plays, with 10.679 million listeners.

Can someone say Roller Coaster Ride?:rolleyes:
Also a thanks to all the fans who are requesting!! :BL :D Do you think we can push it into the Top 20 before Shania's appearance on Larry King?

imonmywayup
03-10-2005, 11:06 AM
It's possible but we have to get a few of the big stations to add. And it depends on whether anything goes recurrent or drops quickly below Dont'! We can try, let's go!!

SSA316
03-10-2005, 12:26 PM
Am I seeing things??!?
here is what mediabase says for me,

26 24 SHANIA TWAIN Don't! 1832 1724 108 12.117

imonmywayup
03-10-2005, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by SSA316
Am I seeing things??!?
here is what mediabase says for me,

26 24 SHANIA TWAIN Don't! 1832 1724 108 12.117


Your on c1M change the M to an R and it will give you the correct information.

Jud
03-11-2005, 06:34 AM
11/03/05, 3.18am

D! >> #24 with 1317 spins, -13 plays and 10.359 audience impressions.

Unfortunatelly another hit, but this time looking bad, as for the first time the song is in negative play, and contrary to other spin lost (like two days ago), this time it had quite big hit on the audience impressions....

Jud
03-11-2005, 06:48 AM
And a note to Mr Lewis - except Sugarland's single, which was released long, long time ago, all current Mercury's singles have a problem:
- Terri Clark's lead single flopped at #23-24
- Shania's single is struggling in the same place
- Roberts' single struggling to get into the top 30.

cbspock
03-11-2005, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by Jud
And a note to Mr Lewis - except Sugarland's single, which was released long, long time ago, all current Mercury's singles have a problem:
- Terri Clark's lead single flopped at #23-24
- Shania's single is struggling in the same place
- Roberts' single struggling to get into the top 30.


Maybe radio is mad at what Luke said at the CRS conference.....

http://www.shania-twain.org/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17241



-Chris

Jud
03-11-2005, 07:02 AM
Clark's single flopped before.

jen
03-11-2005, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by Jud
11/03/05, 3.18am

D! >> #24 with 1317 spins, -13 plays and 10.359 audience impressions.

Unfortunatelly another hit, but this time looking bad, as for the first time the song is in negative play, and contrary to other spin lost (like two days ago), this time it had quite big hit on the audience impressions....

Yeah but keep requesting because the song in #23 is also - in plays and they can easily change places. We have to at least keep this song alive until the Larry King appearance and then go from there.

Steve F
03-11-2005, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by Jud
And a note to Mr Lewis - except Sugarland's single, which was released long, long time ago, all current Mercury's singles have a problem:
- Terri Clark's lead single flopped at #23-24
- Shania's single is struggling in the same place
- Roberts' single struggling to get into the top 30.

Sorry about Terri's song. I like it. It's cute and upbeat, but am also sorry for Shania.:( It makes you wonder what the h--- is going on at Mercury?:lookout They need to interact and improve things.:argue Take a different course, new direction! :director

Steve

imonmywayup
03-12-2005, 06:21 AM
3AM
D!>>#24 with 1332 spins, +16 plays, with 10.371 million listeners. 110/116 stations?.

imonmywayup
03-13-2005, 07:57 AM
3AM
D!>>#24 with 1339 spins, +14 plays, with 10.212 million listeners. 110/116 stations?.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-14-2005, 07:44 AM
3AM
D!>>#23 with 1323 spins, -39 plays, with 10.171 million listeners.

New Plan To Request Don't! (http://shania-twain.org/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17217)

jen
03-14-2005, 10:20 AM
COME ON EVERYONE!!! We really only have one last chance to at least get "DON'T" into the top 20. There are currently three songs falling and this is what it looks like right now:

23 22 JEFF BATES Long, Slow Kisses 1333 1361 -28 10.595
25 23 SHANIA TWAIN Don't! 1323 1362 -39 10.171


With a push we can put Shania in the #22 position and then hope for the best. LET'S GO, request at your local stations and the links provided!

GonnaGetcha720
03-14-2005, 10:59 PM
What is up with country radio...Shania has been sliding around from positions 28-23 at Mediabase since Feb. 16th's 3 AM update. Why has she stayed here for a whole freakin' month! I am tired of this. I would rather have the song plummit so "I Ain't No Qitter" would have a chance.

I blame Mercury once again. Shania is having the most problems at large market stations. Why did they kill the momentum of Shania by giving the large market stations a red light on "Don't!" This destroyed any kind of momentum and demand their was from the DJ's and listeners (besides Shania fans) for new Shania music. Why did they release the video "Don't!" on Jan. 31 then wait to release the single to large markets almost 2 weeks later. That makes no sense at all.

I know that all of this has been talked about before, but it just irritates the heck out of me, when groups like Rascall Flatts and Tim McGraw are garunteed a top 10 hit with whatever they release and Shania's songs have to fight for top 20.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-15-2005, 07:49 AM
3AM
D!>>#23 with 1335 spins, -28 plays, with 10.140 million listeners.

It's stabilizing. Gained spins, lost only 40k listeners, is -3 spins in Top 25, and still #22 in spins on the c1m panel.

Please Keep Requesting!! If we get this song moving, 2 songs should go recurrent this weekend, the song could be Top 20!! We must get momentum bacK!!

cbspock
03-15-2005, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by GonnaGetcha720
What is up with country radio...Shania has been sliding around from positions 28-23 at Mediabase since Feb. 16th's 3 AM update. Why has she stayed here for a whole freakin' month! I am tired of this. I would rather have the song plummit so "I Ain't No Qitter" would have a chance.

I blame Mercury once again. Shania is having the most problems at large market stations. Why did they kill the momentum of Shania by giving the large market stations a red light on "Don't!" This destroyed any kind of momentum and demand their was from the DJ's and listeners (besides Shania fans) for new Shania music. Why did they release the video "Don't!" on Jan. 31 then wait to release the single to large markets almost 2 weeks later. That makes no sense at all.

I know that all of this has been talked about before, but it just irritates the heck out of me, when groups like Rascall Flatts and Tim McGraw are garunteed a top 10 hit with whatever they release and Shania's songs have to fight for top 20.



What makes you think Quitter has a chance? I love the song, but given the hostile environment of country radio I don't think it will have a chance. How can it when Don't gets killed off, and Country radio is playing Nelly.



-Chris

aFriend
03-15-2005, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by cbspock
What makes you think Quitter has a chance? I love the song, but given the hostile environment of country radio I don't think it will have a chance. How can it when Don't gets killed off, and Country radio is playing Nelly.



-Chris

First off, Nelly is not in the top 40 on Country it's just a song that has minimum appeal because Tim is soooo hot right now he can do no wrong!

Quiter is a Country Song, Don't is not. I don't say that to argue with anyone about what is and what is not Country. But given the current state of Country radio and it's push to get back to it's roots, a song has to be counryfied to be played in heavy rotation. Gone are the days of Shania's rock influenced Country. These days it's songs like Redneck woman, Trying To Find Atlantis, Honky Tonk U, I May Hate Myself In The Morning, My Give A Damn's Busted or That's What I Love About Sunday. Every one of those are spit in your face, pick your nose Country songs.

Quiter is one of the first red blooded Country Songs Shania has put out in years. The only other song Shania has done in recient years was "I Ain't going Down" which to this day still amazes and completly baffles me as to why Shania did not release it. It would have been a monster hit. That's not just my opinion by the way, but the opinion of all the major newspapers and trade magazines when "UP' was first released. They all picked it as a Number 1 song. It would win the best Country song never to be released award that is for sure.

Don't will make it big on AC and will probably have the same success as FAFA. It's that kind of song. I think Don't will still break the top twenty in Country, but I see it no higher then her "You've got a way" song which barely made it into the top twenty on Country (And that at a time when Shania was red hot!).

cbspock
03-15-2005, 09:32 AM
I beg to differ, Nelly's song is not country and country radio is playing it. Live Like You Are Dying, was not a country song either and they played it. Trying to find Atlantis, same thing, it is really an AC song. The whole arguement that "Shania isn't country enough" does not hold water, it is a total load given what is on country radio.

Country radio plays what it is paid to.

-Chris

Jud
03-15-2005, 11:01 AM
First of all, before you'll made a "super hit which never was" from I Ain't Going Down, personally i doubt it would have been such a hit.

And as for the argumnt that Shania is not country, so aren't the song's of kenny Chesney, McGraw's songs are countryfied AC hits, nothing more, as well as Martina's hits.

And for Wilson, except "When I'm Think About Cheating, the other two singles were country rock, not to mention Homewecker, which is a fine country-pop song.

So radio perhaps has its exceptions, specially when its about male artists.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-15-2005, 03:38 PM
The afternoon update has her equal in audience to yesterday and plus spins. The song is turning around: Let's keep it going!!

GonnaGetcha720
03-15-2005, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
The afternoon update has her equal in audience to yesterday and plus spins. The song is turning around: Let's keep it going!!

:dancing Hopefully Larry King will help!!!!!!!

ojibiwanqueenst
03-15-2005, 07:20 PM
For the first time in a few days, Shania has finished positive everywhere but bullet:

2PM
D!>>#23 with 1350 spins, -16 plays, with 10.151 million listeners.

There is a new large market playing, please request there. It's KKBQ Houston...information on that station and so many more is in the Current Requesting Thread (http://shania-twain.org/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17217)

GonnaGetcha720
03-15-2005, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
For the first time in a few days, Shania has finished positive everywhere but bullet:

2PM
D!>>#23 with 1350 spins, -16 plays, with 10.151 million listeners.

There is a new large market playing, please request there. It's KKBQ Houston...information on that station and so many more is in the Current Requesting Thread (http://shania-twain.org/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17217)


hopefully, Shania will have her bullet back tommorrow.

Jud
03-15-2005, 07:56 PM
The problem is, D!'s audience impression a week ago was 10.747.
with the same spins around, so it is still very low, and the weak point of her singles lately.

Jud
03-15-2005, 08:07 PM
The problem is, D!'s audience impression a week ago was 10.747.
with the same spins around, so it is still very low, and the weak point of her singles lately.

jen
03-15-2005, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
For the first time in a few days, Shania has finished positive everywhere but bullet:

2PM
D!>>#23 with 1350 spins, -16 plays, with 10.151 million listeners.

There is a new large market playing, please request there. It's KKBQ Houston...information on that station and so many more is in the Current Requesting Thread (http://shania-twain.org/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17217)

(KKBQ PASADENA,TX) INTERNET STREAMED/EASY REQUEST
REQUESTS: (713) 390-5000

http://kkbq.com/inside/playlists.html *just fill out the form where necessary*

.....RATE A SONG, http://kkbq.com/includes/nowplaying/lsp/ ....type in Shania Twain or "DON'T", then rate it!

rick.lovett@cox.com (10am-3pm)
cactus.jack@cox.com (3pm-7pm)
jenny.law@cox.com (midnite-5am)

ojibiwanqueenst
03-16-2005, 07:49 AM
3AM
D!>>#23 with 1389 spins, +72 plays, with 10.189 million listeners.

Here's the thing. It lost 50k listeners on Top 25. But since this new plan in in effect, there won't be a lot of audience coming in with those plays. The idea was to keep Don't! allive and let the recurrents get it into the Top 20 so the big markets will start playing. The best requests are at After Midnite: a lot of audience on big stations.

Jud
03-16-2005, 10:12 AM
No matter what, the position of D! in the long run depend on the big stations.
If they won't pick it up more, soon the rest will drop it slowly, as they need space in their airplay for newer songs.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-16-2005, 10:49 PM
Some new numbers!

Don't! moves 1 spot to #25 BB and 2 spots to #23 R&R this week.

That's good, but it hasn't moved on the R&R panel yet. Request Request Request!!

GonnaGetcha720
03-16-2005, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
Some new numbers!

Don't! moves 1 spot to #25 BB and 2 spots to #23 R&R this week.

That's good, but it hasn't moved on the R&R panel yet. Request Request Request!!

Don't has been going up slowly, but steadily on BB:

Look at the past 7 weeks:

02-12-05....33
02-19-05....32
02-26-05....31
03-05-05....29
03-12-05....28
03-19-05....26
03-26-05....25


-It has only moved 8 spots in almost 2 monthes. This song is definately a slow mover...but don't get discouraged over this: look at Shania's recent Chart history:

By Week 7:

PFT: #17
IOHWIB: #29
SNJAPF: #23
FAFA: #24
IGGG: #09

With the exception of PFT and IGGG, the majority of Shania's songs move at this pace on the charts. In fact, "Don't" is about even with FAFA's Week 7 position. Hopefully "Don't!" will take on the same success as FAFA! That would be great...

ojibiwanqueenst
03-16-2005, 11:01 PM
Yes it would, yes it would. At both country and AC even! :D

Jud
03-16-2005, 11:20 PM
Actually Don't! in it's 10th week on the charts, 67 days (around).

Sheri
03-17-2005, 12:00 AM
This is good news! Shania's history - singles AND albums has been that long, slow, steady climb. And it IS still relatively early when you look at that history. That's why I have to shake my head when I read the occasional doom and gloom posts. There may be a hiccup or two, but as we all know from past releases, this HAPPENS. Relax and enjoy the ride for however long it is. I'm still looking forward to the AC side. :D

Jud
03-17-2005, 01:38 AM
Actually, the statistics are really not reflecting the reality.
Shania's singles till UP! was released - as the whole charts - where much quicker, in 15 weeks they were up and out generally.
And her singles run upward fast.

IGGG and UP! had quite a fast run.
FAFA was much slower.
SNJAPF and specially It Only hurts were even more slower, when the latest did not even break into the Billboard top 15.

So saying its good that its so slow it's just not knowing reality.

On the other hand, Shania's last three singles, including the current one were and are suffering from very low audience impressions - comparing to other hitmakers;s or even mediocre acts' singles.
Which means Shania has a growing problem of being played on the biggest markets, and during the best hours.
Basicly, she's played because she's a big name, but they won't play her enough to reach really high positions - with the exception of FAFA.

If no one remembers, Shania did not had a #1 song on country charts in the last 7 years. And the best position her single reached was #4, I think FTMO and FAFA, maybe one more...

imonmywayup
03-17-2005, 08:02 AM
3AM
D!>>#24 with 1350 spins, -7 plays, with 10.016 million listeners.

cbspock
03-17-2005, 08:03 PM
:rolleyes:


-Chris

Sheri
03-17-2005, 11:54 PM
Perhaps it's just the radio stations here, but regardless, I'm just not going to look for the negative. I remember hearing YSTO, FTMO and Don't Impress Me over a loong period of time when they were released. Come to think of it, I still hear those songs on a daily basis on the AC station.

Same with her albums. In my opinion they're diamonds because they just keep selling. Maybe not a bazillion copies for a few months than gone. But slooow and steady, they just keep moving.

And I don't need any little charts, graphs, print-outs, numbers, whatever! pointing out exactly how many days, hours, minutes it took a new one as opposed to an old one. Like Shania, I'm not a statistics junky.

I remember when some people on the board were posting about how FAFA was starting to fade out. It had taken a dip (heaven forbid). But George (KUMU) had told me this song was going to be a monster. He knows the signs. and he was right.

We've been talking about songs slipping down passing Don't and songs climbing up past Don't. But you know what? Don't is still there.

Do I want that song to get to the top? HECK, YES! Will I fret and think it's a failure if it doesn't go up one more number? Nooooo way. This song is a masterpiece. I don't need any charts to tell me that. I have ears.

Jud
03-18-2005, 01:21 AM
Knowing reality is not necesserily being negative.

We all want Shania success, and as for today radio charts and airplay are very important.
Not because the position is important for itself, but because it's the best tool to spread out the music and promote it. For now at least.
As well as videos, but recently her videos went off the air too.

Rascall Flatts album sales and recently Wildson's sales went high once again, because they had a song people heard a lot, they were exposed to the music, and bought the album.

And this later part is the more important.
As for Don't!, it can be (and maybe won't) a big hit on AC - like your station there - but AC audience is not a music buying public, as the country audience compared.

it's all about exposing people to the music - and lately Shania has a problem with it, and will have to search for alternative ways too.
Once again, it's not about the charts and sales, but the spread of the music.

And about Shania not being a statistic's jukie, I am sure she knows enough statistics, as they are a measure where she's stands, and how she has to plan or do things next. it's all part of the business, she may not fency of them, but sure uses them.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-18-2005, 07:58 AM
Sheri--that is a great post! You're right! Even when songs passed Don't or albums climbed higher than the GH, they are still there. And no chart needs to tell us that Shania is wonderful!!! So with that, I now present today's Uptimistic charts!!

3AM
D!>>#23 with 1392 spins, +73 plays, with 10.185 million listeners.

aFriend
03-18-2005, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by Jud
Knowing reality is not necesserily being negative.

And this later part is the more important.
As for Don't!, it can be (and maybe won't) a big hit on AC - like your station there - but AC audience is not a music buying public, as the country audience compared.


Actually, Adult Contemporary buyers (if the facts be known), probably make up more of Shania's sales then Country. I say that because even without big singles, her albums sell very well. Look at "Up"! Compared with songs from albums that make #1 on Country stations, the album sales are relatively flat. For all the #1 songs on Country, how many sell 5 million albums? Only a few that I can think of. Yeah, WILSON IS HOT right now, but I don't see that album making 10 million. Tim is Hot, and has had a ton of #1 singles, but how many albums have made 7, 6 5, or even 4 million? Another example would be George Strait. 50 # 1 singles, yet not one album, over 5 million. The reason is because Country is a limited audience. To sell as well as Shania, you have to cross over to Pop, AC or at least reach that audience.
AC buyers are a big market, especially for Shania. Don't will not be a big hit on Country. (A lot of us have said that from the get go. ) But it will be at the very least in the top 5 on AC, although I see it as A #1 single. That single on AC will keep the album alive until "Quiter" is released to Country.

Of course, all this Ramble is a lot of just my opinion stuff, but hey, that's why we post right? ;)

Jud
03-18-2005, 08:10 AM
Actually I don't really agree with you about AC buyers against country buyers.

UP! did not really had crossover success, minor Pop play - which made COO so huge - and sold 5.2m copies.

UP! had more and more constant success in country charts, than on the AC with the exception of FAFA, but FAFA was big enough
on country too.

Party For Two was barely played at AC, and top 10 in Country. Don't! is played so far only on country stations, and the album is selling.

It's more connected to the fact, that Shania is an established star, and her music is known for its quality.

But her country base is not less than the rest.

As for the difference between which song goes #1 and wich album is selling well, it is a feature characterizes every genre, not only country music.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-18-2005, 09:20 PM
Don't! Party For Two

53 37
79 196
119 297
228 342
254 402
280 494
301 567
325 630
347 586
346 611
279 625
331 671
357 711
411 803
448 825
508 903
543 955
572 987
609 1104
616 1207
681 1222
717 1305
749 1298
767 1345
793 1332
792 1365
815 1414
851 1467
929 1457
945 1516
983 1512
985 1545
1008 1589
1024 1688
1020 1676
1048 1726
1052 1704
1070 1747
1075 1745
1111 1752
1071 1779
1080 1837
1151 1878
1155 1948
1124 1988
1184 1997
1160 2015
1216 2080
1249 2058
1227 2080
1241 2072
1295 2084
1280 2099
1330 2216
1324 2242
1325 2300
1361 2257
1362 2290
1317 2299
1357 2295
1319 2289
1340 2254
1344 2215
1324 2265
1350 2282
1390 2321
1350 2345
1392 2400


Tomorrow will be Day #70 for "Don't!" on the country chart! :D So far, Day #59 was the highest peak for audience and Day #69 (today) is the peak for spins.

GonnaGetcha720
03-18-2005, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
Don't! Party For Two

53 37
79 196
119 297
228 342
254 402
280 494
301 567
325 630
347 586
346 611
279 625
331 671
357 711
411 803
448 825
508 903
543 955
572 987
609 1104
616 1207
681 1222
717 1305
749 1298
767 1345
793 1332
792 1365
815 1414
851 1467
929 1457
945 1516
983 1512
985 1545
1008 1589
1024 1688
1020 1676
1048 1726
1052 1704
1070 1747
1075 1745
1111 1752
1071 1779
1080 1837
1151 1878
1155 1948
1124 1988
1184 1997
1160 2015
1216 2080
1249 2058
1227 2080
1241 2072
1295 2084
1280 2099
1330 2216
1324 2242
1325 2300
1361 2257
1362 2290
1317 2299
1357 2295
1319 2289
1340 2254
1344 2215
1324 2265
1350 2282
1390 2321
1350 2345
1392 2400


Tomorrow will be Day #70 for "Don't!" on the country chart! :D So far, Day #59 was the highest peak for audience and Day #69 (today) is the peak for spins.

Wow, great job! Thanks for the statistics...it does show how much slower "Don't!" is moving than "PFT." Maybe Don't! will achieve longevity and end up being successful afterall. I don't care if it takes 50 weeks to get to #1 as long as it gets there!;)

Jud
03-19-2005, 06:32 AM
19/03/05, 3.11am

#24 with 1367 spins, +20 plays and 10.145 audience impressions.
Perhaps in a few days it will passed by Big&Rich's song too.

The song is stepping in place in the last two weeks, the only change is, that it lost a lot of audience impressions.

imonmywayup
03-20-2005, 07:10 AM
3AM
D!>>#24 with 1365 spins, +21 plays, with 10.242 million listeners.

SSA316
03-20-2005, 08:53 AM
Maybe if we send a donation to Mercury they will use it to buy Shania some spins....

jen
03-20-2005, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by SSA316
Maybe if we send a donation to Mercury they will use it to buy Shania some spins.... HAHAHA, nah they will probably use it on Julie Roberts or one of the other acts on Mercury :rolleyes:

cbspock
03-20-2005, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by jen
HAHAHA, nah they will probably use it on Julie Roberts or one of the other acts on Mercury :rolleyes:



Yeah, they would..lol


-Chris

Jud
03-20-2005, 11:07 AM
I think they already loaned money for that purpose, so now they can't take a new one for Shania's single...they have no credit anymore:nuts: :nuts:

cbspock
03-20-2005, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Jud
I think they already loaned money for that purpose, so now they can't take a new one for Shania's single...they have no credit anymore:nuts: :nuts:


Until Shania's next Mercury Subsidy is released..lol hehe It must stink when their bank takes a year off..lol



-Chris

GonnaGetcha720
03-20-2005, 11:11 PM
Yes...it could happen, here's the current situation:

Bold: Falling Out (losing more than 50 spins)

01-CRAIG MORGAN That's What I Love A... 4867 (+226)
02-SUGARLAND Baby Girl 4644 (+599)
03-JOSH GRACIN Nothin' To Lose 4038 (-440)
04-RASCAL FLATTS Bless The Broken... 3889 (-266)
05-KENNY CHESNEY Anything But Mine 3944 (+178)
06-BROOKS & DUNN It's Getting Better ... 3665 (+124)
07-MONTGOMERY GENTRY Gone 3279 (+111)
08-BILLY DEAN Let Them Be Little 3303 (-64)
09-JO DEE MESSINA My Give A Damn's Bus... 3030 (+151)
10-LEE ANN WOMACK I May Hate Myself In... 3014 (+61)
11-TOBY KEITH Honkytonk U 2880 (+69)
12-ANDY GRIGGS If Heaven 2839 (+84)
13-JOE NICHOLS What's A Guy Gotta D... 2460 (+74)
14-GRETCHEN WILSON Homewrecker 2396 (+397)
15-TIM MCGRAW Drugs Or Jesus 2410 (+137)
16-MARTINA MCBRIDE God's Will 2266 (+137)
17-TRACE ADKINS Songs About Me 2101 (+77)
18-BLAINE LARSEN How Do You Get That ... 1886 (+49)
19-DIERKS BENTLEY Lot Of Leavin' Left ... 1856 (+299)
20-JAMIE O'NEAL Trying To Find Atlan... 1937 (-236)
21-LONESTAR Class Reunion (That ... 1741 (+46)
22-JEFF BATES Long, Slow Kisses 1400 (+57)
23-SHANIA TWAIN Don't! 1375 1344 (+31)
24-PHIL VASSAR I'll Take That As A ... 1286 (+28)
25-BIG & RICH Big Time 1269 (+230)


If we really, really push hard this week and hold off "Big Time" by B&R, than we could see Shania move up to 22 when Jamie O'Neal falls out and then up to #20 if/when Billy Dean, Josh Gracin, or R.F. go recurrent sometime next weekend...request hard this week...this may be our last chance to make "Don't!" a top 20!!!!

Jud
03-20-2005, 11:26 PM
The problem is, that Big&Rich's song already has more audience impressions. And that's what counts for Billboard.
Too bad, that Don't! lost audience impressions from 10.7 to 10.2, then it would be a different case.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-20-2005, 11:41 PM
It's back to 10.4 tonight.:)

jen
03-21-2005, 10:48 AM
Well like predicted B&R passed up Shania but she still moved up a place .............hopefully we can hold the position until the other songs fall and "DON'T" can at least be a top 20 song.


26 22 BIG & RICH Big Time 1294 1074 220 11.153
23 23 SHANIA TWAIN Don't! 1367 1324 43 10.355


REQUEST REQUEST, even if once a day it's better than nothing
:)

ojibiwanqueenst
03-21-2005, 03:43 PM
We must keep this song within #22 to #1. There will be more songs falling next week, and we have to be there to catch the move.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-22-2005, 07:45 AM
3AM
D!>>#24 with 1360 spins, +10 plays, with 10.504 million listeners.

A small drop in spins, but a gain in audience of 100k listeners. WUSN Chicago is over 1 million listeners a week. Keep Requesting!

GonnaGetcha720
03-23-2005, 06:35 AM
3AM
D!>>#24 with 1336 spins, -54 plays, with 10.640 million listeners.

Once again Shania has lost her bullet...this time it is very serious...However, she gained aud. imp. This might be because she is losing spins at the small markets but is now finally gaining at the large markets...however, we need both spins and aud imp.

This is the 18th straight day that Shania has been in the spin range from 1300-1392. In fact 18 days ago Don't Had:

1330 spins only 6 less than where she is now
10.253 aud imp. only .4 mill. less than where she is now...

This is ridiculous...I know we're working as hard as we can! I guess we need to request harder...I hope the Larry King appearance is rescheduled soon!!!!!:rolleyes:


We really need to get this song out of the 10 mill. aud range and out of the 1300 spins range...There are now 5 songs WITHOUT bullets in front of Shania. 3 of those are losing 50+ spins a week or more....This may be our LAST Chance for a top 20!!!!

Also, now we've got to worry about 4 songs all within 6 places behind Shania that are gaining over 100 spins a week. One is Keith Urban's newest...and now George Straight's new single is debuting big at radio....let's hurry up!!!!!!

cbspock
03-23-2005, 06:51 AM
If nothing else it shows the politics of radio for what it is.


-Chris

SSA316
03-23-2005, 10:01 AM
Country radio is pathetic!! :rolleyes:
Maybe we should bombard Mercury with emails telling them to get their act together...how many large markets are playing Don't!?...like 2? ...surely Mercury is aware of this, I bet it is their goal to try and make Shania fail because they don't seem to be doing anything about it! :rolleyes: :mad:

imonmywayup
03-23-2005, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by SSA316
Country radio is pathetic!! :rolleyes:
Maybe we should bombard Mercury with emails telling them to get their act together...how many large markets are playing Don't!?...like 2? ...surely Mercury is aware of this, I bet it is their goal to try and make Shania fail because they don't seem to be doing anything about it! :rolleyes: :mad:

Let's get a hold of their e-mail addy and go for it!

jen
03-23-2005, 01:22 PM
I agree that this is our last chance and to be honest probably our best chance at getting "D!" into the top 20!! We really need to get this song in the top 20 b4 it is released to AC or for sure radio will kill it. DON'T give up requesting & if u haven't requested in a while, we really need your support now, even if it is once a day!! LET's GO!!

imonmywayup
03-23-2005, 02:00 PM
Maybe we need a temporary new thread that will catch everyone's eye and get their attention that this is important!

jen
03-23-2005, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by imonmywayup
Maybe we need a temporary new thread that will catch everyone's eye and get their attention that this is important!

Thats a good idea Brad, how about we do that at the fanclub....change the title of our post to LAST CHANCE for "Don't"! or something & if somebody can change it here:)

GonnaGetcha720
03-23-2005, 06:37 PM
I already posted this on the 'requesting Don't!' thread, but I wanted to make sure that everybody sees it so they know where to request at this week:

The following numbers are taken from R&R's chart for the week ending March. 19. I know it's a little old, but it will still give us an idea of where we really, really need to request:



Spins This Week-Station/City (Gain/Decrease in Spins)


Stations With No Increase/Decrease in Spins

27-WQMX-FM/Akron (+0 Spins)
24-KNCI-FM/Sacramento (+0 Spins)
21-WWQM-FM/Madison, WI (+0 Spins)
19-KTOM-FM/Monterey/Salinas (+0 Spins)
18-KMPS-FM/Seattle (+0 Spins)
17-KXKT-FM/Omaha (+0 Spins)
16-KBEQ-FM/Kansas City (+0 Spins)
16-KRST-FM/Albuquerque (+0 Spins)
11-KMDL-FM/Lafayette, LA (+0 Spins)
11-WKIS-FM/Miami (+0 Spins)
09-WGNA-FM/Albany, NY (+0 Spins)
08-WDXB-FM/Birmingham (+0 Spins)
08-KZSN-FM/Wichita (+0 Spins)
06-WOGK-FM/Gainesville (+0 Spins)
05-WDSY-FM/Pittsburgh (+0 Spins)
04-WGAR-FM/Cleveland (+0 Spins)
04-WPOC-FM/Baltimore (+0 Spins)
04-WROO-FM/Jacksonville (+0 Spins)
04-WKDF-FM/Nashville (+0 Spins)
04-WWYZ-FM/Hartford (+0 Spins)
04-KSD-FM /St. Louis (+0 Spins)
04-WMZQ-FM/Wash DC (+0 Spins)
03-WESC-FM/Greenville, SC (+0 Spins)
03-KZLA-FM/Los Angeles (+0 Spins)
02-WQDR-FM/Raleigh (+0 Spins)
02-KSCS-FM/Dallas (+0 Spins)
02-WIL-FM /St. Louis (+0 Spins)
01-WYRK-FM/Buffalo (+0 Spins)
00-KPLX-FM/Dallas (+0 Spins)
00-WSM-FM /Nashville (+0 Spins)
00-KMLE-FM/Phoenix (+0 Spins)
00-KNIX-FM/Phoenix (+0 Spins)
00-KAJA-FM/San Antonio (+0 Spins)
00-WYUU-FM/Tampa (+0 Spins)
00-KVOO-FM/Tulsa (+0 Spins)
00-KFDI-FM/Wichita (+0 Spins)

Stations With Increase Spins

43-KSKS-FM/Fresno (+1 Spin)
33-KASE-FM/Austin (+3 Spins)
28-WUSN-FM/Chicago (+2 Spins)
27-WOGI-FM/Pittsburgh (+8 Spins)
26-KXKC-FM/Lafayette, LA (+13 Spins)
26-WGNE-FM/Daytona Beach (+1 Spin)
25-WYPY-FM/Baton Rouge (+4 Spins)
24-KWJJ-FM/Portland (+11 Spins)
24-KTEX-FM/McAllen/Brnsvlle (+2 Spins)
24-WAMZ-FM/Louisville (+5 Spins)
23-KUZZ-FM/Bakersfield (+2 Spins)
21-KUBL-FM/Salt Lake City (+2 Spins)
21-WGGY-FM/Wilkes-Barre (+1 Spin)
21-WGH-FM /Norfolk (+1 Spin)
19-WWGR-FM/Ft. Myers (+2 Spins)
19-KCCY-FM/Colo Springs (+3 Spins)
18-WXBQ-FM/Johnson City (+1 Spin)
18-KHEY-FM/El Paso (+4 Spins)
17-WCOL-FM/Columbus (+8 Spins)
17-WNKT-FM/Charleston (+3 Spins)
16-KFRG-FM/Riverside (+1 Spin)
16-KDRK-FM/Spokane (+2 Spins)
15-KBQI-FM/Albuquerque (+2 Spins)
14-KILT-FM/Houston (+4 Spins)
14-KRTY-FM/San Jose (+1 Spin)
13-KWNR-FM/Las Vegas (+1 Spin)
13-WDAF-FM/Kansas City (+1 Spin)
12-WPKX-FM/Springfield, MA (+1 Spin)
12-KIIM-FM/Tucson (+2 Spins)
12-WUBE-FM/Cincinnati (+2 Spins)
11-WPCV-FM/Lakeland (+4 Spins)
11-KSON-FM/San Diego (+3 Spins)
10-WCTQ-FM/Sarasota (+3 Spins)
10-KTST-FM/Oklahoma City (+2 Spins)
10-WFMS-FM/Indianapolis (+1 Spin)
08-WSOC-FM/Charlotte (+3 Spins)
08-WSIX-FM/Nashville (+1 Spin)
08-KZBR-FM/San Francisco (+4 Spins)
07-WIVK-FM/Knoxville (+1 Spin)
07-WIRK-FM/West Palm (+3 Spins)
07-WEZL-FM/Charleston (+1 Spin)
06-WMIL-FM/Milwaukee (+3 Spins)
05-WKKO-FM/Toledo (+1 Spin)
05-WKSJ-FM/Mobile (+1 Spin)
04-WRBT-FM/Harrisburg (+1 Spin)
04-KKBQ-FM/Houston (+3 Spins)
02-WCTO-FM/Allentown (+2 Spins)

Stations With Decrease Spins

30-WBCT-FM/Grand Rapids (-1 Spin)
24-KSOP-FM/Salt Lake City (-5 Spins)
23-KUPL-FM/Portland (-2 Spins)
22-WKHX-FM/Atlanta (-4 Spins)
22-KHKI-FM/Des Moines (-1 Spin)
22-WGTY-FM/York, PA (-1 Spin)
21-KATM-FM/Stockton (-3 Spins)
17-WCTK-FM/Providence (-5 Spins)
16-WRNS-FM/Greenville, NC (-1 Spin)
12-WSSL-FM/Greenville, SC (-3 Spins)
10-WKLB-FM/Boston (-1 Spin)
10-KCCY-FM/Colo Springs (-6 Spins)
10-WGKX-FM/Memphis (-4 Spins)
10-WCKT-FM/Ft. Myers (-3 Spins)
10-WQYK-FM/Tampa (-2 Spins)
10-WBBS-FM/Syracuse (-8 Spins)
09-WTQR-FM/Greensboro (-1 Spin)
08-KEEY-FM/Minneapolis (-5 Spins)
08-WYCD-FM/Detroit (-6 Spins)
08-KSSN-FM/Little Rock (-6 Spins)
08-KIXZ-FM/Spokane (-1 Spin)
08-WCAT-FM/Harrisburg (-1 Spin)
07WUSY-FM/Chattanooga (-1 Spin)
07-WYNK-FM/Baton Rouge (-1 Spin)
06-KFKF-FM/Kansas City (-1 Spin)
05-WKKT-FM/Charlotte (-2 Spins)
05-WXTU-FM/Philadelphia (-3 Spins)
05-KYGO-FM/Denver (-3 Spins)
04-WCOS-FM/Columbia, SC (-1 Spin)
04-WYGY-FM/Cincinnati (-1 Spin)
04-WQHK-FM/Fort Wayne (-8 Spins)
02-KUSS-FM/San Diego (-1 Spin)

That's all of em'
---------------------------------------------

MY TOP 5 STATIONS OF THE WEEK
The following chart is just my opinion of standard-setting country stations. They aren't afraid to be different and in my eyes stand above all the rest for their willingness to play Shania:


43-KSKS-FM/Fresno (+1 Spin)
27-WOGI-FM/Pittsburgh (+8 Spins)
26-KXKC-FM/Lafayette, LA (+13 Spins)
24-KWJJ-FM/Portland (+11 Spins)
17-WCOL-FM/Columbus (+8 Spins)


TOP 10 STATIONS WE NEED TO REQUEST AT
The following chart is just my opinion of what stations we need to focus on requesting at due to their lack and decrease of playing Shania's "Don't:"

00-KPLX-FM/Dallas (+0 Spins)
00-WSM-FM /Nashville (+0 Spins)
00-KMLE-FM/Phoenix (+0 Spins)
00-KNIX-FM/Phoenix (+0 Spins)
00-KAJA-FM/San Antonio (+0 Spins)
00-WYUU-FM/Tampa (+0 Spins)
00-KVOO-FM/Tulsa (+0 Spins)
00-KFDI-FM/Wichita (+0 Spins)
04-WQHK-FM/Fort Wayne (-8 Spins)
08-WYCD-FM/Detroit (-6 Spins)


TOP 25 MARKET STATIONS:

28-WUSN-FM/Chicago (+2 Spins)
27-WOGI-FM/Pittsburgh (+8 Spins)
24-WAMZ-FM/Louisville (+5 Spins)
22-WKHX-FM/Atlanta (-4 Spins)
21-KATM-FM/Stockton (-3 Spins)
18-KMPS-FM/Seattle (+0 Spins)
14-KILT-FM/Houston (+4 Spins)
13-KWNR-FM/Las Vegas (+1 Spin)
11-WKIS-FM/Miami (+0 Spins)
10-WKLB-FM/Boston (-1 Spin)
10-WQYK-FM/Tampa (-2 Spins)
10-WFMS-FM/Indianapolis (+1 Spin)
09-WTQR-FM/Greensboro (-1 Spin)
08-WYCD-FM/Detroit (-6 Spins)
08-KEEY-FM/Minneapolis (-5 Spins)
07-WIVK-FM/Knoxville (+1 Spin)
05-WDSY-FM/Pittsburgh (+0 Spins)
05-WXTU-FM/Philadelphia (-3 Spins)
05-KYGO-FM/Denver (-3 Spins)
04-KKBQ-FM/Houston (+3 Spins)
04-WGAR-FM/Cleveland (+0 Spins)
04-WPOC-FM/Baltimore (+0 Spins)
04-WMZQ-FM/Wash DC (+0 Spins)
04-WWYZ-FM/Hartford (+0 Spins)
03-KZLA-FM/Los Angeles (+0 Spins)
02-KSCS-FM/Dallas (+0 Spins)
02-WIL-FM /St. Louis (+0 Spins)
00-KPLX-FM/Dallas (+0 Spins)
00-KNIX-FM/Phoenix (+0 Spins)

Well, there you go shania fans, this should give you an idea of where you should request this week.

NOTE: Just because a station has 00 spins by it in the above chart doesn't neccessarily mean it was played 0 times. It just means that the station played the song so little (around 1 or 2 times) that the song didn't make it's R&R playlist this week.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-23-2005, 10:20 PM
Please everyone--use the current request thread. All these stations GonnaGetcha mentioned are there. By tomorrow morning, they will all be linked. They are there to help you. We need you to participate! Please, let's take Shania to the Top 20!! (http://www.shaniafans.com/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17217)

Jud
03-23-2005, 11:30 PM
Thi is really stupid, and show that the chsrts are hmm...

The song in the last 4 days constantly loosing spins from 1392 >> 1336, and constantly fgaining audience impressions, from 10.181 >> 10.640, becasue NOW Chicago playing a lot.

What a joke!:rolleyes:

GonnaGetcha720
03-24-2005, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by Jud
Thi is really stupid, and show that the chsrts are hmm...

The song in the last 4 days constantly loosing spins from 1392 >> 1336, and constantly fgaining audience impressions, from 10.181 >> 10.640, becasue NOW Chicago playing a lot.

What a joke!:rolleyes:

I think it's because we've seen an increase in large market stations and a minor decrease in small markets.

GonnaGetcha720
03-24-2005, 06:51 AM
3AM
D!>>#24 with 1370 spins, +20 plays, with 10.667 million listeners.

Well, for the first time in days, Shania GAINED in all areas. She might even pass Jamie O' Neal's "Trying to Find..." which is at #23 and falling fast. Shania is 34 spins up from yesterday's 1336 and has regained her bullet and about 67K listeners...keep going!!!!!! :drool:

imonmywayup
03-25-2005, 08:02 AM
5AM
D!>>#24 with 1370 spins, +20 plays, with 10.667 million listeners.

Jud
03-25-2005, 08:08 AM
That's exactly the same chart as was in yesterday.
I guess they have a problem to update the charts, and we will see an update later with different numbers.

cbspock
03-25-2005, 08:09 AM
Maybe they won't update it until after Easter? Some people are off today since it is Good Friday.


-Chris

Jud
03-25-2005, 08:57 AM
5.49am

D! >> #23 with 1342 spins, -52 plays and 10.619 audience impressions. This time the song drop spins, plays and impressions.

Went up one place because O'Neil's song is spinning out.

Jud
03-25-2005, 09:08 AM
This is what the song did in the last 22!! days:

position/spin/plays/audience-impressions

27 1279 95 9.944
27 1330 170 10.253
27 1324 108 10.259
27 1320 71 10.406
25 1361 134 10.747
26 1316 21 10.645
23 1357 77 10.679
24 1317 -13 10.357
24 1332 16 10.371
24 1339 14 10.212
23 1323 -39 10.171
23 1335 -28 10.14
23 1350 -16 10.151
23 1389 72 10.189
24 1350 -7 10.016
23 1392 73 10.185
24 1367 20 10.145
24 1365 21 10.242
24 1360 10 10.504
24 1336 -54 10.64
24 1370 20 10.667
23 1342 -52 10.615

Jud
03-26-2005, 03:57 AM
I went to an industry site, where in the country part there is a section with full samples of all songs currently played on country radio.
But guess what, which song was not listed there?
That's right, "Don't!" ...:rolleyes:

This is just another example of Mercury's doing nothing and industry treatment.

Even Cowboy Troy's single there. And all singles running right now.

Jud
03-26-2005, 06:31 AM
26/03/05, 3.26am


D! >> #23 with 1361 spins, 0 plays (still without a bulett) and 10.601 audience impressions (lost a bit).

Jud
03-27-2005, 07:11 AM
27/03/05 3.14am

D! >> #23 with 1388 spins, +12 plays and 10.728 audience impressions.

GonnaGetcha720
03-27-2005, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Jud
27/03/05 3.14am

D! >> #23 with 1388 spins, +12 plays and 10.728 audience impressions.

Finally, some good news!!!;)

Jud
03-28-2005, 01:17 AM
8.59pm


D! >> #22 with 1391 spins, +15 plays and 10.634 audience impressions.
Josh Gracin's song went recurrent, that's why D! is up one place, but if it won't take of next week, Keith Urban's new song will pass it soon.

Jud
03-28-2005, 06:35 AM
28/03/05, 3.18am

D! >> #22 with 1419 spins, +48 plays and 10.733 audience impressions.
The gain is good, but the stagnation in audience impressions is not. Keith Urban's single already has more spins than Shania's...

cbspock
03-28-2005, 07:08 AM
Why I'm I not surprised.


-Chris

GonnaGetcha720
03-28-2005, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by cbspock
Why I'm I not surprised.


-Chris


Yall, we should be happy "Don't!" finally got out of the 1300 spins range...it was there for 20+ days, it has finally gotten out...the tony danza appearance might also help airplay

ojibiwanqueenst
03-28-2005, 10:41 AM
ALERT: Request at WUSN Chicago: -4 spins for the week and over 300,000 audience!!

ojibiwanqueenst
03-29-2005, 07:54 AM
3AM
D!>>#22 with 1419 spins, +56 plays, with 10.519 million listeners.

I think the audience drop is still coming from WUSN. Don't was #9 on their playlist last week Tuesday and is now at #20. Please request there!! They were the only large market to fully support the single. Seems they are dropping it now.

Jud
03-29-2005, 08:02 AM
No one will support the single long time, if the 5-6 panel stations which still did not added the song won't do that, and the big stations won't play it more. And will not take off.

The single was stopped by those stations from the get-go. Industry politics...

ojibiwanqueenst
03-30-2005, 07:50 AM
3AM
D!>>#22 with 1440 spins. +106 plays, with 10.406 million listeners.

What can I say? I think its Chicago. Request!

Jud
03-30-2005, 07:56 AM
The audience impression drop is bad, like 4 weeks it can't go over the 11m.
The easiest way to hold it back.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-31-2005, 07:43 AM
:(

3AM
D!>>#23 with 1399 spins, +29 plays, with 10.365 listeners.

How can a song lose spins like this in one night? Is there a station that just doesn't play it at night? It's probably because a syndicated show didn't play it. Hopefully they come back tomorrow. She fell from #19 to #21 on the c1m most played too.

This single either needs to take off or die and make room for Quitter.

Good news is on AC it is +30 plays with 20 stations.

Jud
03-31-2005, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by ojibiwanqueenst
:(

3AM
D!>>#23 with 1399 spins, +29 plays, with 10.365 listeners.

How can a song lose spins like this in one night?

On the country charts anything can happen....:rolleyes:

Unfortunatelly, I doubt the song will gain back again.

And I still think they doing to Shania, what they did to faith Hill with Cry (first single #12, than #26 #28)

aFriend
03-31-2005, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Jud
On the country charts anything can happen....:rolleyes:

Unfortunatelly, I doubt the song will gain back again.

And I still think they doing to Shania, what they did to faith Hill with Cry (first single #12, than #26 #28)

I know I keep saying this but "Don't " like Cry, is not a Country song. It will do very well on AC, but I never expected it to go any higher then high teens at most on Country. "Quiter" on the other hand will top out in the top 5. Take it to the bank! ;)

Jud
03-31-2005, 11:36 AM
And I will keep answer you, that you're wrong if you think QUitter will go high.

Not to mention, that a lot of not country songs hit the #1 since Shania had her last one.
Obviusly, being a country song is not always a criterium. But of course you're ignoring this .

Sheri
03-31-2005, 01:03 PM
There's nothing wrong with being optimistic. That doesn't mean anyone is blind, it just means that they have either a differing view - which is perfectly fine - or choose to look at the glass as half full rather than half empty.

Jud
03-31-2005, 01:07 PM
Ah, you miss the point Sheri...

Afriend says, Don't is not played because it's not country (and of course ignores all the other songs which are not country but running high on the charts), but Quitter will be played a lot, because it's country.

And I am saying it won't, because it's never about which song is how much country, but industry politics. It will not go high because it's Shania.

ojibiwanqueenst
03-31-2005, 03:42 PM
Unfortunetly Jud has a point. I think "Quitter" is going to be huge for Shania. But #1? Although I am always optimistic, or try to be, that may not be a reality. Country radio is going through some bad transitions. Let's hope they grab that single.

jen
03-31-2005, 05:27 PM
I am uptimistic and hope "IANQ" reaches that #1 but Shania's sales are doing fine so far w/o a number one. It would be great to get her back up there though:)

cbspock
03-31-2005, 06:47 PM
Quitter is "too country". I am getting so tired of people saying "Don't" is not country. It is especially compared to a lot of songs on "country" radio.


-Chris

corran
03-31-2005, 08:04 PM
The video Don't certainly is country even if the song by itself is not perceived as country...I regard the video Don't as Spanish country and very much so...So don't be knockin Don't as not country eh! Ha! Ha!

Benjamin:D hehe hehe

Jud
04-01-2005, 06:36 AM
01/04/05, 3.24am

D! >> #23 with 1421 spins, +78 plays and 10.383 audience impressions.

RandyGK
04-01-2005, 09:33 AM
How about we start doing update for the AC every day? I'm curious to see how it's doin there! Thanks in advance!

aFriend
04-01-2005, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Jud
Ah, you miss the point Sheri...
Afriend says, Don't is not played because it's not country (and of course ignores all the other songs which are not country but running high on the charts), but Quitter will be played a lot, because it's country.
And I am saying it won't, because it's never about which song is how much country, but industry politics. It will not go high because it's Shania.

1 1CRAIG MORGAN That's What I Love
3 2 KENNY CHESNEY Anything But Mine
2 3 SUGARLAND Baby Girl
4 4 BROOKS & DUNN It's Getting Better ...
6 5 MONTGOMERY GENTRY Gone
7 6 JO DEE MESSINA My Give A Damn's Bus...
9 7 LEE ANN WOMACK I May Hate Myself In...
11 8 ANDY GRIGGS If Heaven
10 9 TOBY KEITH Honkytonk U
12 10 GRETCHEN WILSON Homewrecker

Play any one of these top ten songs (or all of them), Then play "Don't" It just doesn't have the Country sound. Now I am talking the Country sound Right now, not last year, or the year before that, but what is "HOT"!!. Right now what is HOT is the foot stomping good time Country sound. Now I've been a Country fan for longer then I want to remember (back when Tanya Tucker was still in baby clothes to say the least.) I love Don't! I think it's a great song but it is not what is hot right now in Country. Have an open mind here. Look at the ones that are hot, and have made the top ten. Even "Party for two" was at least the sound that is in right now. That's what I mean by not being Country sounding. It is not what is in vouge right now! And because of that, it will be lucky to make the top 20.

I have a lot of friends in Radio, both COUNTRY AND AC. They tell me, Quiter was a big hit with Test Audiences and I believe them. They tell me "Don't" tested high with AC and I believe them. They are the same ones that told me "Party for two was at best a top 5 song"

Here is a fact that most of you may not know. Record labels DO test songs with audiences before releasing. They DO try to find the best song to release at that time so it makes the bigest impact. Record lables are in it for the money too. The more albums sold, the more they make. They do have a big (Millions) stake in this whole game. That being said, superstars like Shania can override recomendations for singles, which is why I guess, a great Country Song like "I Ain't going down" was never released. It tested high and should have been released instead of "When you kiss me" which I think was Shania's hand pick. I say that because from the very begining of "UP" career, Shania said "When you kiss me was one of her favorite's and in line with "Your still the one"

Oh well, I rambled on long enough. I hope I didn't ruffle any feathers, that's not what this is all about. Having a Forum is about everyone's take on their favorite star. Mine is Shania, just like your's. But I figure everyone has an opinion on how things are, or should be. That being said, these are just my opinions. I understand yours and enjoy reading them.

Jud
04-01-2005, 09:22 PM
First of all, there is a difference to say what is hot is country right now, and what is country or not.

BTW do your radio friends are talking with you about payola too?:rolleyes:
Be sure, they aren't tell you the whole story...

Like McGraw's latest hit was not really country, not really upbeat neither. Neither is Chesney's song....

Now about sound and testing, I do realise, what is hot right now on country radio, and country radio is always it's homogenizing, so if you compare "Quitter" to other songs going high right now like: Trace Adkins', Bentley's, or Pickin' Wild Flowers" of Keith Anderson, or Bobby Prison, the sound (production wise) is still very different from "Quitter"'s.

Wilson's newest is also high, and it's not by those standards, but a real cookie-cutter country pop.

I don't care radio testings, because there are many other things influencing a song's chart position. I saw surveys where McGraw's song tested as bad as Shania's, but it was played like hell, while Shania's not. And I am sure, there was no problem of requesting neither.

Let's see, for example, I think since 1997 no single released by McGraw missed the #1 position, while since middle 1998 no Shania single reached that position. And who sold more, and who's the international superstar? (and don't say Shania's not country, becausee Breathte or There You'll bBe went #1s after, and none of them are country)

Are your radio friends talking about that too?:rolleyes:
Or the fact that since 2002 april, almost 3 years were only 5 female #1s (including the Chicks), from it 3 with nice help of spin buyning?
Even the Chicks and Wilson with all the hype could have just one chart-topping single.

I am sorry, but country charts are manipulated, so myself not really trust what radio-people are saying....

cbspock
04-01-2005, 09:38 PM
It has been demonstrated in recent articles in trade magazine just how corrupt radio has become. It is not about sampling songs, etc. It is about what label is going to hand over the cash to the radio stations, either over or under the table.

Djs have no control over what is played on air, they have to go by whatever the corporate play list is at the time.

WALK here on LI would not play FAFA until they could work a deal with Shania's management to sponsor her concert on LI.


-Chris

Jud
04-01-2005, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by cbspock
WALK here on LI would not play FAFA until they could work a deal with Shania's management to sponsor her concert on LI.


-Chris

Yeap, Clear Channel is a master of doing this with artists...

jen
04-01-2005, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by RandyGK
How about we start doing update for the AC every day? I'm curious to see how it's doin there! Thanks in advance!

Ummmm there are already 2 threads about AC, go here:

http://www.shaniafans.com/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17370

and here:
http://www.shaniafans.com/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17338

cbspock
04-01-2005, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by Jud
Yeap, Clear Channel is a master of doing this with artists...


The PD said they would not play the song because quote "they had problems with her management that needed to be cleared up"


-Chris

Jud
04-01-2005, 09:47 PM
yeap, and guess what, they sure did not talked about how fans and listeners are requesting the song....:rolleyes:

Jud
04-02-2005, 06:26 AM
2/04/05, 3.16 am

D! >> #23 with 1401 spins, +11 plays and 10.413 audience impressions. Once again, as in th elast weeks, after gain drop. Tought it gained a little audience impressions, but dropped on big stations.

Jud
04-02-2005, 06:31 AM
this is what the song did, since it went over 1300 spins and 10 audience impressions 29 days ago:

27 1330 170 10.253
27 1324 108 10.259
27 1320 71 10.406
25 1361 134 10.747
26 1316 21 10.645
23 1357 77 10.679
24 1317 -13 10.357
24 1332 16 10.371
24 1339 14 10.212
23 1323 -39 10.171
23 1335 -28 10.14
23 1350 -16 10.151
23 1389 72 10.189
24 1350 -7 10.016
23 1392 73 10.185
24 1367 20 10.145
24 1365 21 10.242
24 1360 10 10.504
24 1336 -54 10.64
24 1370 20 10.667
23 1342 -52 10.615
23 1361 0 10.601
23 1388 12 10.728
22 1419 48 10.733
22 1419 56 10.519
22 1440 106 10.406
23 1399 29 10.365
23 1421 78 10.383
23 1401 11 10.413


And tell me that the charts aren't a joke.

limited
04-02-2005, 08:07 AM
Maybe it is time for a Congressional inquiry on the corruption in radio business. They did it for baseball and they should do it for this rotten mess also! Airplay should be based on public demand and CD sales, not the payola that is apparently running wild again like it did many years ago!

Jud
04-03-2005, 06:29 AM
03/04/05, 4.16am


D! >> #23 with 1386 spins, -5 plays and 10.256 audeince impressions. The drop is coming mainly fro big market stations.
Thje song is quite done.

limited
04-03-2005, 08:23 PM
Radio is such a joke. Most of the artists in the top 10 can't sell any albums,but their singles still get a huge amount of airplay. Shania still continues to sell a lot of CDs with very little airplay or support from the business. Just imagine what Shania could sell with support from the industry! That is what they are afraid of! This attitude is starting to hurt country radio and eventually may destroy it. There are many real true artists that get no support from radio. The public does not know what they are missing. Country radio has lost me for now and maybe forever, but I will always be a Shania fan Forever and For Always!

corran
04-03-2005, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by limited
Radio is such a joke. Most of the artists in the top 10 can't sell any albums,but their singles still get a huge amount of airplay. Shania still continues to sell a lot of CDs with very little airplay or support from the business. Just imagine what Shania could sell with support from the industry! That is what they are afraid of! This attitude is starting to hurt country radio and eventually may destroy it. There are many real true artists that get no support from radio. The public does not know what they are missing. Country radio has lost me for now and maybe forever, but I will always be a Shania fan Forever and For Always!

Same goes for me limited...But I am going to suscribe to XM radio this summer so I can listen to that Shania special...What us Shania fans go through just to listen to Shania...

Benjamin:)

ojibiwanqueenst
04-04-2005, 06:42 AM
3AM
D!>>#22 with 1398 spins, -21 plays, with 10.338 listeners.

Good to see both audience and spins go up. Bullets are meaningless, until she gets two weeks that on Sunday she doesn't have one, then we will worry.

sas
04-04-2005, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by limited
Radio is such a joke. Most of the artists in the top 10 can't sell any albums,but their singles still get a huge amount of airplay. Shania still continues to sell a lot of CDs with very little airplay or support from the business. Just imagine what Shania could sell with support from the industry! That is what they are afraid of! This attitude is starting to hurt country radio and eventually may destroy it. There are many real true artists that get no support from radio. The public does not know what they are missing. Country radio has lost me for now and maybe forever, but I will always be a Shania fan Forever and For Always!

Radio has lost me as well... I left once before and guess why I came back..:) YEP I DISCOVERED SHANIA... so I'm fed up once again and I agree with what you are saying...Shania is indeed #1 with me but I imagine we do miss out on others in the process.. what a shame for us all....

Debbie
04-04-2005, 10:20 AM
Radio lost me the day I got my iPod! I listen to Shania when ever I want! I use the iPod in my home as well as in my car. The only way to go, IMO. I still request a lot on the radio but to tell you the truth I don't wait around to find out that they are not going to play her!

limited
04-04-2005, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Debbie
Radio lost me the day I got my iPod! I listen to Shania when ever I want! I use the iPod in my home as well as in my car. The only way to go, IMO. I still request a lot on the radio but to tell you the truth I don't wait around to find out that they are not going to play her!


Debbie, I am a lot like you when it comes to listening to music. Radio is dead to me, I too use an MP3 player loaded with Shania or I play CDs. I request Shania on radio too,but I will not waste my time listening to hours of junk on radio,when I can play Shania 24/7! Shania's music helps make life worth living!

corran
04-04-2005, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by limited
Shania's music helps make life worth living!


I have to agree with you whole heartedly limited...

Benjamin:)

Debbie
04-04-2005, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by limited
Debbie, I am a lot like you when it comes to listening to music. Radio is dead to me, I too use an MP3 player loaded with Shania or I play CDs. I request Shania on radio too,but I will not waste my time listening to hours of junk on radio,when I can play Shania 24/7! Shania's music helps make life worth living!


limited I agree with all of your post!!!:)

ojibiwanqueenst
04-05-2005, 06:45 AM
The good news just keeps on coming :rolleyes:

3AM
D!>>#22 with 1372 spins, -46 plays, with 10.274 million listeners.

ojibiwanqueenst
04-06-2005, 06:38 AM
Let's hope it's a Shania burp

3AM
D!>>#23 with 1330 spins, -110 plays, with 10.073 million listeners.

cbspock
04-06-2005, 06:40 AM
What is it doing on AC?


-Chris

ojibiwanqueenst
04-06-2005, 06:45 AM
28 stations, +131 spins, #2 among gainers.

Jud
04-06-2005, 01:34 PM
It has 161 spins on AC, and probably getting close or inside the top 30 already.

ojibiwanqueenst
04-07-2005, 06:44 AM
3AM
D>>#23 with 1332 spins, -67 plays, with 9.837

This audience ordeal is killing me. She's only -1 play in large markets but has lost 200,000 listeners there. I'm hoping Chicago keeps increasing plays and audience.

jen
04-07-2005, 08:32 AM
Well quite a bit of songs are falling so u never know, let's give it one more try and see what happens!!!

ojibiwanqueenst
04-08-2005, 06:42 AM
3AM
D!>>#26 with 1262, -160 spins, with 9.514 million listeners.

Bye bye Don't!...:(

cbspock
04-08-2005, 06:51 AM
:stubborn: :stubborn:

-Chris

sas
04-08-2005, 07:31 AM
:stubborn: :stubborn: :stubborn:

You can say that again...:( Would this indicate the reaction to AC adds or is Quitter coming up sooner than later...

OR HAS MERCURY/UNIVERSAL DECIDED TO MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR JUST WHAT STUPID - UNCREATIVE - UNAPPRECIATIVE - CORRUPT - INDIVIDUALS THEY TRUELY ARE? HEY1

SSA316
04-08-2005, 08:06 AM
I still Ain't Quittin' on the song! ;)
Everyone keep requesting...especially at GAC and CMT seeing how video play is more important then radio airplay!

Jud
04-08-2005, 08:32 AM
Unfortunatelly the song peaked a month ago almost, when 6 big panel stations, like KZLA, Dallas refused to play it.

And its not about how country the song or not, the country chart is still full of AC flavored material.
This is industry politics >> just remember the lesson they teached Faith Hill. The radio simple just frozed her singles from Cry (#12 ; 26 ; 28) >> and here she comes with a traditional album, brown hair and Big&Rich co-operation.

Mercury is another story, but they are cutting the tree under themselves.

tides24
04-08-2005, 12:16 PM
<<And its not about how country the song or not, the country chart is still full of AC flavored material.>>

Chuck Flippo in Nashville Skyline:

Some things I don't like about current country music:

• Songwriters, radio people, label executives and artists who prattle on endlessly about how the beauty and unique appeal of country music lies in its ability to tell stories in songs -- and then who keep on writing and producing and releasing and hyping an endless array of meaningless greeting card songs. If I want a greeting card, I'll go to a Hallmark store, thank you very much. I want some country music on my radio stations.

Jud
04-08-2005, 12:49 PM
Yeah, Mr Flippo it's way better to have a 'real Country" song about drinking and all that . He maybe did not noticed, but not everyone is living in that old way today, except some industry people perhaps....:rolleyes:

Personally, I don't give much to the opinion of Chet "Lets' Whipe away Shania" Flippo.
The likes of him never will tell the truth.

Jud
04-08-2005, 01:01 PM
The biggest problem of country industry is its sovinism. Look how manty female singer can get into the top 10? Not much ...

In the last 3 years (yes, 3 years) there was only 4 female number one song - like for each 9 months one. From that 3 with the help of buying spins.
Nor Wilson, neither earlier the Chicks with all their hype was enough to have more than one #1 song. But how many Ac flavored Chesney, McGraw, Urban etc song is going to #1, almost every one of them - and in the case of McGraw every one of them.

Of course female aren't allowed. They should be middle successfull, and being satisfied with their little careers - that's why female singers if they want success going toward crossover.
And then, when they dare to be idependent, and more successfull, than all those high pitched, limited voiced male singers, then they became the Satan and should be whipped away.

This industry is rotten.

You know when Shania stopped to have #1s on country radio? When crossed over, and became too big for Nashville.
Not because she became too pop >> after her Faith Hill had #1 with Breathe, There You'll Be, The Way You Love Me, what's not?
It's about throwing into Bashville face the truth.

cbspock
04-08-2005, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by tides24
<<And its not about how country the song or not, the country chart is still full of AC flavored material.>>

Chuck Flippo in Nashville Skyline:

Some things I don't like about current country music:

• Songwriters, radio people, label executives and artists who prattle on endlessly about how the beauty and unique appeal of country music lies in its ability to tell stories in songs -- and then who keep on writing and producing and releasing and hyping an endless array of meaningless greeting card songs. If I want a greeting card, I'll go to a Hallmark store, thank you very much. I want some country music on my radio stations.


I thought that was the junk they were playing on country radio. All the redneck and drinking songs, so what is his problem.

sas
04-08-2005, 07:21 PM
check this out.... in the tennessan today...

Where will Kenny park his sexy tractor?


Dozens of you have e-mailed and called to ask about Katie Couric's visit here April 28.

Katie will play host to a mini-Kenny Chesney concert that morning for NBC's Today show. You, dear readers, wanna know if you can go.

The answer is: duh, I dunno.

Plans aren't finalized yet, and NBC hasn't even confirmed it's happening at all. But folks in Kenny's camp, in the mayor's office and at WSMV-Channel 4, the local NBC affiliate, say for sure it's gonna go down.

It's just that no one's sure yet where it's gonna happen or whether the public will be invited. At first blush, though, it doesn't sound like the Kenny-Katie show will be quite the street-closing big ordeal that Shania Twain's downtown show for ABC's Good Morning America was.

Jud
04-09-2005, 05:41 AM
09/04/05, 3.17 am

#26 with 1235 spins, -156 plays and 9.137 audience impressions.

On AC :
#28-24 (circa), 215 spins, +124 plays, played by 39 stations.